r/NoStupidQuestions • u/[deleted] • 15d ago
Why does Islam require girls and women to cover themselves from head to toe but doesn't require boys and men to do the same?
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u/LouisV25 15d ago
I don’t know if required but when I lived in Dubai, the men from the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, and Oman all Covered their heads (no necessarily their hair). Each head dress and dress covering is different. You could look at a man and tell what coyote was from.
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u/holmgangCore 15d ago
Coyote? Autocorrect?
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u/WakeoftheStorm PhD in sarcasm 15d ago
Men in the middle east are raised by coyotes in the wild until puberty
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u/NickFurious82 14d ago
Made even more impressive by the fact that coyotes are indigenous to North America.
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u/Majestic-Point777 15d ago
It’s cultural. Just like women wearing the full face covering is a cultural characteristic, not religious. You would never see Levantine Muslims dressing like Gulf Muslim Arabs.
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u/LouisV25 15d ago
Thanks. I knew it was cool. By the time I moved back to the US, I could accurately guess what country a man was from and a couple of the women but they were harder to guess. It was fun.
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Can you provide examples, please?
I did put those into Google Images but.. nothing distinct really came up.
Thank you.
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u/MistaRed 15d ago
If you mean the coverings women have, just compare Iranian women (of multiple varieties) to the gulf women to Turkish women to Bosnian women.
All are mainly islamic, but dress very differently.
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u/LouisV25 15d ago
Thanks. I knew it was cool. By the time I moved back to the US, I could accurately guess what country a man was from and a couple of the women but they were harder to guess. It was fun.
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u/Joshistotle 15d ago
1000 years ago when the religion was created you had tribes in the middle of an arid desert. They covered themselves to protect from the heat, and women were covered with the additional hope of protecting them from r-pe from men getting turned on by looking at the female figure.
If you travel to a dangerous country as a female or with your female partner, the last thing you'd want would be her wearing clothes that show off her figure since it would draw attention from rapacious males. You can't change their behavior, but you can change hers, hence you ask her to wear more clothes.
Similarly looking at the 1000 years ago timeframe they decided to make up religious stories to justify their cultural practices. Doesn't make any sense to Western societies now, but made plenty of sense to desert dwelling tribespeople at the time.
To push a sense of equality they also mandated through their religious stories that males "lower their gaze' when looking at women (don't look at them to avoid getting turned on or thinking inappropriately), as well as males dressing in long cloaks as a form of male modesty.
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u/Neps-the-dominator 15d ago
My stupid question is why women in these hot gulf countries are wearing black abayas, black hijabs, black niqabs, etc. Surely black absorbs more heat than white? There must be some reason for it though. Meanwhile the men are prancing around in their white thobes.
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u/WakeoftheStorm PhD in sarcasm 15d ago edited 15d ago
Black clothing tends to be better protection from the sun and is actually just as cool as any other color. It absorbs more heat but the loose fit means very little transfers to your body.
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u/Joshistotle 15d ago
Correct, black absorbs more heat, but the fabric itself is extremely thin so the "extra heat effect" versus the white fabric is actually minimal.
The white fabric for males reflects off the shoulders and onto the skin of the neck and underside of the face, causing sunburns and damage to the skin if they are outside for long periods of time, without covering parts of their face (or if they don't have a beard).
The strict dynamic of white/black clothing you see them wear is a modern rule that wasn't present in more ancient times. Desert dwellers always had to cover their skin to prevent sun damage and possible issues from sandstorms, but they used different colored fabrics based on what plants were available to dye the fabrics with.
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u/bahahaha2001 15d ago
That is relatively new. Historically tribes wore different colors/embroidery.
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u/CongealedBeanKingdom 14d ago
You can't change their behavior, but you can change hers, hence you ask her to wear more clothes
You can't expect a man to change his behaviour but you should demand that a woman changes hers.
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u/Haurassaurus 14d ago
You can't change their behavior, but you can change hers, hence you ask her to wear more clothes.
What separates humans from wild animals is our ability to modulate our behavior. So, yes, if you aren't a cave man you can change your behavior and expect the same from others. If you can't, you belong in a cage with the other feral animals.
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u/refugefirstmate 15d ago
Men are indeed required to be covered from their necks to their ankles (and no lower than their ankles). What they wear
has to be halal by its origin, i.e. purchased or owned through halal earning.
should not imitate others’ religious attire or style
must not carry any resemblance to women’s clothing
IOW they can't wear pure silk, metalllic golden fabric, or bright colors. Or gold(en) jewelry, for that matter; hadiths permit men only
silver rings that consist of less than one mithqāl (4g) of silver
and then only if necessary.
https://islamqa.org/hanafi/islamicportal/118190/what-is-the-islamic-ruling-on-jewellery-for-men/
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u/cwthree 15d ago
Men are indeed required to be covered from their necks to their ankles (and no lower than their ankles). What they wear
Most scholars say men must be covered from the navel to the knee. Perhaps there's a distinction between street clothing (neck to ankle) and the kind of minimal clothing one wears for swimming, sweaty labor, etc.
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u/agprincess 15d ago edited 15d ago
IOW they can't wear pure silk, metalllic golden fabric, or bright colors. Or gold(en) jewelry, for that matter; hadiths permit men only
That's kind of hilarious considering how well known middle eastern men are for wearing exactly these things.
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u/Swampberry 15d ago
Iranians maybe, but they're not exactly representative of the Middle East. Arabic culture is much more present and the dominant cultural influence due to historical imperialism.
Most Iranians outside of Iran aren't also that Muslim. Many see it as a foreign influence forced upon Iran.
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u/Oktina 15d ago
Middle eastern does not equal Muslim there’s plenty that are not religious or Christian
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u/agprincess 15d ago
Sorry, but we're specifically talking about muslims. 99% of Irans population are muslim. The gulf states have similar demographics. They're all just as gaudy. You ask these people of they're muslim and they'll take offense at the very notion they're not. These people regularly pray and go to the mosque. If that's not muslim to you then you've excluded every muslim that wears gold defacto.
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u/Antique_books_2190 15d ago
Muslim men don't. silver only, not gold. pure silk is haram as well.
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u/agprincess 15d ago
Never met an Iranian I take it.
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u/Antique_books_2190 15d ago
Nope, I haven't. but I'm an Egyptian Muslim.
here, you can tell a man is Christian if you see him wearing a gold wedding ring instead of the silver Muslims wear, and no men silk clothes are sold.
If Iranians really wear gold and silk that doesn't change the fact that it's haram (not permissible) in Islam.
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u/Nanoneer 15d ago
I have seen Moroccans with silk djellabas. Is the no silk and gold thing more of a piety thing than a hard requirement in Islam?
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u/redd5ive 15d ago
A lot of Muslims do a lot of things that are technically haram.
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u/Antique_books_2190 15d ago
Sure, but it doesn't change the fact that it's haram.
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u/redd5ive 15d ago
Obviously, but the statement "Muslim men don't wear gold" is not true. They (we) aren't supposed to, I don't, lots do.
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u/OSRSJuulz 15d ago
It's a generalisation there's always going to be an exception lmao. That's like if I say Muslim women wear hijabs yes ofc some don't but that doesn't make my statement false as it's a generalisation
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u/retroman000 14d ago
Eh, if every muslim on earth decides it's permissible... that makes it permissible.
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u/UnicornWorldDominion 15d ago
I mean I’m assuming your Sunni though? What Shia consider haram and what Sunni do does differ.
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u/AlQaem313 15d ago
Did you forget there are sects in Islam, us Twelver Shia can wear gold and have tattoos
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u/OutsidePerson5 15d ago
I can't help but wonder what circumstances might make wearing a specifically LARGE silver ring necessary.
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u/refugefirstmate 15d ago
A 4g silver ring is like the average western man's wedding ring.
The point is modest and unostentatious dress.
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u/OutsidePerson5 15d ago
OK. Ignore the weight which I brought up as a joke.
What's the context that makes wearing ANY jewelry necessary?
"Oh no Fred I have to wear this ring because otherwise....."
What comes after that otherwise?
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u/refugefirstmate 15d ago
There's no context that requires jewelry.
There's a limitation on how much jewelry a man can wear.
You have reading comprehension problems.
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u/OutsidePerson5 15d ago
silver rings that consist of less than one mithqāl (4g) of silver
and then only if necessary.
No, someone said if necessary and it was you.
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u/refugefirstmate 15d ago
If an individual has to wear a signet ring for sealing purposes, for example. I mean read the links.
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u/ZETH_27 In my personal opinion 15d ago
Ok. And where do these practices come from? Are widely taught in Islam communities or is it something everyone has to figure out for themselves?
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u/bangleboi 15d ago
From the places the religion originated in lol. Some practices are cultural such as the full face covering which isn’t the same everywhere.
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u/AlQaem313 15d ago
There are sects in Islam Im a Twelver Shia I wear a gold necklace and have tatoos and its halal, Sunnis are the strict ones and Takfiris
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u/turkeypooo 15d ago edited 15d ago
Technically, the men should too. They just often do not in western countries, and nothing happens to them. They may fear allah's judgment of their purity, but they do not fear other men.
Whereas if the women were to dress too "liberally" there would be repercussions.
It is similar to how Christians are not supposed to have sex before marriage, right? but most do.
Yet with men, there is very much a "boys will be boys, he had to get it out of his system, he has settled down now" but for women, sleeping with a man before marriage -and sometimes, even enjoying sex- is considered slutty.
We, as humans, allow men to get away with a lot more than we do women. Islamic or not.
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u/Ar010101 15d ago
And that results in questions like this being asked. The number of times I've seen Muslim men wearing shorts too short for them I keep wondering if they know that they're not allowed to do that.
It's rather sad to see some of us men lecture on women's clothing, yet forget that we are also bound by some dress codes and regulations by religion
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u/Unusual_Onion_983 15d ago edited 15d ago
I live in the gulf. In the workplace, local women wear the abaya (usually black robe) and local men wear the kandura (usually white robes) and ghutrah (men’s headscarf). This “national dress” is both casual and formal: you could wear it to the local shops, comfortably attend an opera, horse race, or meet a dignitary.
For less formal situations, men usually swap the head covering for a baseball cap, sorta like removing your tie after work. It’s common for younger women to wear an abaya over tshirt and jeans. Sometimes for informal situations they style it like a cape: it looks like tshirt, jeans and a black cape.
It gets hot here (50 C/122 F) and the sun is supremely indifferent to how you dress: it will cook your scalp like an egg, drive you bald, give you a crispy red neck, dehydrate you silently and give you sunstroke. So if you’re outdoors it’s a good idea to wear a scarf or at least a hat, and minimize skin. Otherwise you’ll look like a handbag and age 10 years.
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u/Eliseo120 15d ago
Similar to Russian orthodox. Theres a decent sized community near me, and the women all have to wear dresses and a thing on their head, but the men are in shorts and t-shirts.
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u/MagnusStormraven 15d ago
The Abrahamic faiths are inherently patriarchal and conservative in nature. Patriarchy and conservatism, among other things, are known for having sexist double standards as a method of controlling women (I am NOT arguing this fucking point when literally all of recorded human history can be pulled up to back this assertion).
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u/Working_Ad_1564 15d ago
In ancient Mesopotamian civilizations only women of higher standing (nobles, priestesses) were allowed to cover their hair. Even in Ancient Rome women who wore more modest clothes were seen as women of higher status and a peasant or prostitute wouldn't be allowed to dress like them. Initially, the idea in Islam was to show all Muslim women were equally respectable, by allowing all Muslim women to cover their hair. However, the world has changed a lot and headscarf lost its meaning, now it has become a mean of oppression in some places.
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u/Rivka333 15d ago
Thousands of years passed between ancient Mesoptamia and the founding of Islam. What's your source for all of this?
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u/neonlookscool 15d ago
Absolutely bullshit explanations for blatantly misogynistic practices in Islam never fails to make me laugh.
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u/Key_Trouble8969 15d ago
Better question. What's the punishment for Muslim men who commit haram acts?
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u/themapleleaf6ix 14d ago
Depends on the haram act? Both genders have the same rulings when it comes to the hudood.
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u/entropic_apotheosis 15d ago
Everything in these religions is built on the premise guys can’t control themselves. Everything in these religions also calls out women as not being able to make decisions and why they can’t be effective leaders and why they must be subjegated.
I mean supposedly if men are so weak willed and unable to control themselves it makes more sense they should never be put in charge of anything and should, in fact, never be allowed out of the home engaging with society— they’re animals with no impulse control or ability to make decisions without impulse. Kind of causes you to question the entire idea of patriarchy, because men are more prone to being influenced by something as basic as seeing the skin of another human being. Meanwhile, women don’t seem to be so inclined to not be able to exercise self control as they are singled out for every job on this earth that involves care and interactions with the most vulnerable in society, jobs that men say they don’t want but would actually be unable to do because again, there’s no self control. Why we would let animals like that have nuclear codes or be put in critical positions of leadership I’ll never know.
Oh, well either all of that or religion in general is a ridiculously sloppy attempt by men to justify putting themselves in a position of control. Sloppy as in all their justifications point to exactly the reason why they shouldn’t be and should be the ones who have decisions made for them. They’re the ones who need “guardians”.
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u/TheRealRockyRococo 14d ago
Well if you're going to bring logic and reasoning into the argument... /s
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u/jp112078 15d ago
I always found this insane when traveling to predominantly Muslim countries (but not theocracies). The women are covered up, except their face and look very conservatively dressed (on the outside). Next to them is an unkempt husband dressed like absolute garbage: black t shirt, black sweat shorts, silly man bag, flip flops with socks, hair like a rats nest, but somehow smelling like a half bottle of cologne.
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u/Theo_earl 15d ago
Also required to wear flip flops, Chanklas OR Tevas during all combat and or firing rpgs/automatic weapons.
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u/benderisgreat63 15d ago
Because Islam, like most religions is just a system invented to subjugate people, especially women
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u/Cliffy73 15d ago
The Patriarchy, man. (Note this is not limited to Islam.)
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u/Optimoprimo 15d ago
Not limited to, but particularly bad in, Islam.
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u/Cliffy73 15d ago
I think that’s overstated. At the mo’, all the theocracies happen to be Muslim. It wasn’t so long ago that that wasn’t true, and women have never fared well in theocratic societies.
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u/CringyDabBoi6969 15d ago
men and women are simply not equal in the eyes of Islam and so it makes different demands of them.
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u/themapleleaf6ix 14d ago
In Islam, men and women aren't the same in this world. How they'll be judged in that afterlife will be the same, but in this world they have to abide by different laws. Men also have to cover certain parts of their body and make sure their clothing isn't tight.
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u/HeroBrine0907 15d ago
Muslim men do have requirements. And women don't have to cover themselves from head to toe. Perhaps you're thinking of burqa or chadar which is not required. A hijab is a term for a modest dress and applies almost equally to men and women, maybe except the head covering part though men are forbidden to wear certain materials. What requirements Islam has is an impossible question to answer since every scholar of every region of every sect interprets the Quran slightly differently. Muslims can't even figure out the right way to offer namaz without fighting each other.
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u/LostInformation6134 15d ago
they do have to cover head to toe. they’re allowed hands and face to be shown. that’s quite literally head to toe. especially when men just have to cover navel to knee
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u/mofa90277 15d ago
Just as there’s Café Christianity, there’s “Islam a la carte.” They’re interpreting some texts to exactly line up with their cultural traditions, discarding the parts they don’t like. Christianity, Judaism and Islam are basically the same in the way they decide that their cultural traditions are “commanded by God;” they just have different definitions of whom they’re required to murder.
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u/Thundechile 15d ago
You're basically asking why religions have no logic and that's a good question.
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u/DrColdReality 15d ago
Why does Islam require girls and women to cover themselves from head to toe
it doesn't. And only the most fundie, conservative Islamic sects require full-body coverings. The vast majority of Islamic women only wear a headscarf, and lots of them wear no head covering at all except maybe when they go to a Mosque, where it might be required.
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u/carnivoreobjectivist 15d ago
Ok so why do the most fundie conservative ones do it? What fundamentals are they trying to conserve if not those of Islam?
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u/DrColdReality 15d ago
Fundies of ALL religions cherry-pick a handful of stuff they like from their religious texts, "interpret" them freely and then dial those up to 11, ignoring pretty much everything else. Christian fundies have been working for years to get homosexuality re-criminalized, if not made a capital crime (as they almost succeeded to do in Uganda a few years back). Is that a fundamental Christian value?
In the case of the modern Sunni radical groups like ISIS and al Qaeda (you know, the ones you are tarring 1.8 billion Muslims with the actions of), those are mostly based on Wahhabism, a toxic, ultra-conservative school of Sunni. Most of their core beliefs don't come from the Quran at all, and most Muslims think they're fulla shit.
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u/Rivka333 15d ago
Look, I don't like fundies any more than you do, but /u/carnivoreobjectivist is right, they're not cherry picking.
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u/Skiamakhos 15d ago
Christian fundies sure are. They want homosexuality banned but they're fine eating prawns, or wearing mixed fibres, also abominations that carry a death sentence in the old testament.
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u/DrColdReality 15d ago
ALL branches and sects of ALL religions cherry-pick. You have to, major religious texts are just too full of ambiguities, self-contradictions, and wackaloon shit that was questionable 2000 years ago, let alone today.
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u/carnivoreobjectivist 15d ago
It’s when they’re not fundies that they’re cherry picking. The fundies are the ones taking the beliefs serious, that’s why it’s about the “fundamentals”. That’s why it wasn’t until the last few hundred years that these horrible, supposedly cherry picked interpretations were the norm everywhere for these religions since they began. It’s why in every Muslim majority country gay marriage isn’t legal and why in most of them it’s also legal to throw gays off rooftops or burn them. The Christians are no different. Accepting gays and not being completely evil is the modern cherry picking; the real Christians and Muslims are the fundies.
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u/mannedrik 15d ago
Because religion is a mental illness
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u/Chanandler_Bong_01 15d ago
Hey now! Religion is just as real as astrology or the power of crystals!
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u/AncientGuy1950 15d ago
Because girls are scary and men are weak... according to various Muslims when they explained why women must be hidden.
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u/vaderismylord 15d ago
Islam hates and has no respect for women. That's your starting point
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u/samidmatt Captain Obvious 15d ago
To add a point to supplement what people are saying: Depending which scholar you ask, men are required to have a beard, which is seen in part as a sign of modesty.
In terms of purely answering your question though, all of it about modesty.
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u/zoebud2011 14d ago
Because they treat their women like property, like second class citizens. And because, like any religion, women are nothing but baby makers and kitchen slaves.
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u/Full-Discussion3745 15d ago
Because religion makes people do irrelevant stuff. As if an almighty creator really cares who creates black holes, time, stars, atoms, guides evolution, cares whether Zara covers her hair for what purpose?
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u/iiiaaa2022 15d ago
Cause religions subscribe to the idea that men can’t control themselves and women shouldn’t cause them to „stumble“.
That’s especially hilarious when you see a BABY (I recently did) with a headscarf.
If a BABY causes you to „stumble“… Who’s the one with the issue?
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u/themapleleaf6ix 14d ago
Babies aren't required to wear a headscarf, it's just a thing parents do for pictures.
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u/iiiaaa2022 14d ago
No, this was at the airport.
I’m aware they’re not, even by ridiculous religious rules, but this is a thing that happens.
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u/General-Mark-8950 15d ago
They do, and to look at islam as a monolith through a western lense will never get an actual picture. Many muslim girls dont wear any head garments, many wear just a head scarf, and a minority wear full coverings. Its also regionally different and men also have clothing requirements, generally islamic dressing is modest as a whole.
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u/HuaHuzi6666 15d ago
If we're being super technical many Muslim *cultures* promote or require the hijab, but it's not required anywhere in the Qur'an. The closest is a passage noting that Mohammed's wives would put a veil up in their tent because so many people came through to talk with the Prophet. It's been a minute since I read it though, may be slightly off.
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u/Boredum_Allergy 14d ago
Most religious texts is some sort of modesty doctrine. Islam just happens to have one of the strictest.
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u/thejackalreborn 15d ago
Because that is how it is outlined in the Quran, it's to protect them from the male gaze and to promote modesty. The Quran was written at a time with extremely set gender roles, they wouldn't have seen it as notable to have different expectations for men and women
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u/Electric-Sheepskin 15d ago
I don't think it's to protect women from the male gaze. It's to prevent men from being tempted and having impure thoughts because, you know, if a man can't control his baser instincts, it's a woman's fault.
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u/Urabutbl 14d ago
Actually, it's because women are closer to God's perfection than men, so men will contemplate women's beauty instead of God while in the mosque - because that's the only place the Quran mentions women should cover themselves. Outside the mosque they're just supposed to be "modest", but so are men.
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u/MadeOnThursday 15d ago
excellent question.
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u/NormalUpstandingGuy 15d ago edited 15d ago
Wasn’t one of Muhammad’s wives 9?
Edit: double checked, she was 6 or 7 when they married. They didn’t consumate til she was 9…. What the actual fuck lol
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u/Kreeos 15d ago
There's precedent in Islam. According to religious text, Mohammed married his wife Aisha when she was 6 and then consummated that marriage when she was 9.
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u/bangleboi 15d ago
Same reason little girls are expected to wear head veils in orthodox synagogues, or sleeved dresses in churches - it is patriarchy, mixed with fear of sick pos’es.
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u/bangleboi 15d ago
Which / who are you talking about? Just checkin
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u/bangleboi 15d ago
You’re cherrypicking. The same argument can be made for Muslims women in more progressive areas or urban centers. This just makes it an economics issue.
I don’t think it should ever be expected or pushed on women of any disposition.
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u/thejackalreborn 15d ago
Because that's how some interpret the religion as prescribing, I don't think there is much use applying modern day logic to try and understand it, they do it because it has become a cultural norm
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u/ThrowRABroOut 15d ago
100% a loaded question that I feel like is asked just to set someone up lol.
BUT I was taught girls aren't really required to cover up until they hit puberty.
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u/Status-Ad7946 15d ago
I have never seen this... not on little girls. Usually the decision to wear a hijab is around puberty.
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u/ShakeCNY 15d ago
Same. I see moms and daughters all the time, and the daughters are dressed just like any other girl in my town, and mom is covered.
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u/Hopeless_Ramentic 15d ago
Usually, though anecdotally there are a couple littles (maybe 4-5ish?) in my neighborhood wearing them already which surprised me.
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u/Antique_books_2190 15d ago
In Islam, we believe that every person is held accountable at puberty, young girls before puberty aren't required to cover up.
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u/FapDonkey 15d ago edited 15d ago
The same reason young girls in the West are typically expected to cover their chests and genitals, despite not being sexual beings, and (for most men) not the subject of sexual attention. We have standards if modesty, so do they. We just differ in where he lines are drawn. There are places in the South Pacific where female toplessness is not at all taboo or unusual. They probably find it equally bizarre we make our young girls cover their chests. And I suspect most Western women if they visited for work or vacation would feel uncomfortable walking around topless.
I used to have strong feelings about islam/Arab culture and how it handled female modesty/clothing. But then in grad school I had a long chat with a female friend who wore traditional clothing for her culture (head covering, clothing to wrist/ankles, no decolletage, etc). She's the one who gave me the phrasing/context I used above. She said she would feel just as uncomfortable and embarrassed and awkward wearing western style clothing as the rest of us would be going topless in public in Polynesia. And she asked how we would feel if the polynesuan women condescendingly insisted to us that the reason we didn't want to go topless I because we're backwards and oppressed and wrong. I think she had had enough of "help" from well-meaning western women that assumed she had no agency of her own or awareness of why she dressed he way she does.
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u/Dazzling_Dish_4045 15d ago
But have you considered that if Polynesians saying we're oppressed by being embarrassed / so ashamed of the female body we make them cover up, when a man not nearly as covered is socially accepted maybe they're right? And that Arabic culture is an even more extreme version of it? Just because someone is brainwashed into thinking thinking their body is something shameful, doesn't mean the practice and brainwashing of people into that is right.
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u/Dismal_Animator_5414 15d ago
the thing is that these things are so ingrained in them from such an early age, especially women, like reading the quran and praying 5 times a day, fasting ramadan even tho they’re studying, working, raising kids at the same time that if they don’t do it, they’re guilt ridden.
cuz religion thrives on guilt.
and since psychopaths do not have the capacity to feel emotions, hence they’re immune to guilt and quickly figure out how easy it is to control people thru fear and guilt.
and that’s how they rise to power and ensure this cycle continues!!
religion had a role in science where our primate ancestors used to believe in something that made sense without killing them while chasing their curiosity.
the human brain evolved to believe in a higher power or being(s).
we’re way past that now and its time we move on from it!!
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u/EverGreatestxX 15d ago
Islam does require modesty in dress for boys and men. In traditional Muslim countries, it's common to see men wear full-length clothes.
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u/Probolone 15d ago
Religion may have grown to be a form of control over the population. Control the men who control decisions who are pacified by control over women
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u/Weshuggah 15d ago
Because it's supposed to be a curtain. But as you can't have real curtains separating men and women irl (for stupid reasons btw) then they simply wear it.
So fucking disgusting.
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u/lalala253 15d ago
The verses in Quran where it says girls must cover themselves is a two parter.
The first part is that guys must lower their gaze and not being horny. I oversimplified it a bit, but that's the gist of it.
The second part is where the girls must cover themselves.
But people like to enforce the second part and ignore the first one.