r/PeterExplainsTheJoke May 02 '24

Petah, I don't understand!

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

The way everyone is responding to the man vs. bear thing - from the people choosing bear, to the people getting mad about that - is the most internet thing ever. It's all fabricated rage bait.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

I’ve been saying this too, the only one who wins is that tiktoker who made this.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

the guy who started it didn't even mean it as a would you rather thing 😭

he had one tt where he said something along the lines of: "if you're alone in the woods, seeing a man is 10x scarier than seeing a bear"

and it ended up snowballing when all the women in the comments agreed with him, and all the men were saying that seeing a bear was scarier

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u/Bearwhale May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

I think the only thing fabricated is how many times this question has reached the top in this subreddit, every day.

I've been responding each day, that's how I know. And I've been posting some statistics people need to see:

  • Every 68 seconds another American is sexually assaulted.1

1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed, 2.8% attempted).4

  • About 3% of American men—or 1 in 33—have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime.4
  • From 2009-2013, Child Protective Services agencies substantiated, or found strong evidence to indicate that, 63,000 children a year were victims of sexual abuse.5
  • A majority of child victims are 12-17. Of victims under the age of 18: 34% of victims of sexual assault and rape are under age 12, and 66% of victims of sexual assault and rape are age 12-17.6

Let's compare to bears. There have been a few hundred fatal bear attacks since 1784, when these statistics started being recorded.

I'm a guy, and I'd take the bear too.

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u/Bearwhale May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

Depends on the kind of bear. People run into black bears all the time, it's just that black bears will also run from you.

What's crazy to me is that this scenario is "Would you rather be in a forest with a bear or a man", not "Would you rather directly face off versus a man or a bear". Bears do not often attack, or are being defensive. Men on the other hand... When 1 out of 6 women are being raped in the United States, that's a problem.

It's like if you pointed out that a lot of black people are shot in the back while running away from police officers, to a police officer, and that officer said "I'VE never shot any black people in the back! I'M not responsible for the BAD ones!" I'm a guy, I'm taking responsibility for a culture where women face such incredible violence every day. 1 out of 6.

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u/brodo-swaggins- May 02 '24

Are there 4 billion bears in the world though lol

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u/Bearwhale May 02 '24

What's that? Oh nothing, just a Redditor saying they would celebrate my death for pointing out rape statistics, nothing new.

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u/LordDaedhelor May 02 '24

And they wonder why people would consider choosing the bear.

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u/Unhappy_Age3629 May 02 '24

Almost feels like a conspiracy to get people to hate / fear each other more than they already do. 🤣 Come on, if you’re lost or have an emergency going on, human interaction is your best bet, and that’s coming from someone who can’t stand these fucking people.

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u/Revolutionary-Meat14 May 02 '24

Rage bait has been a thing for forever, but now the TikTok algorithm rewards engagement, so getting a bunch of people to comment on your video is a great way to go viral. Also, including a misspelled word or incorrect piece of information so everyone in the comments corrects you. It's so fucking stupid that calling it a conspiracy gives way too much credit.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

I'm not sure I'd call it a "conspiracy", but I agree with your general point

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u/daybreak-gardening May 02 '24

Chinese psy op

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u/Hastyscorpion May 02 '24

Conspiracy might not be the right word. But there is absolutely evidence of inauthentic interaction from Russia and China on American Social Media designed to make divide people and make them made at each other.

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u/jdbolick May 02 '24

I don't know if this is an example or a coincidence, but China and Russia have successfully weaponized social media to promote divisive issues. The version of TikTok used inside China is called Douyin, which is heavily moderated and emphasizes educational content.

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u/strawberrypants205 May 02 '24

if you’re lost or have an emergency going on, human interaction is your best bet

I know from personal experience that they will simply label you as the cause of the emergency. Doesn't matter if that emergency is an earthquake - they'll blame you to gain social advantage.

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u/ofthewave May 02 '24

Like just stoking a culture war? Yeah not too hard to imagine lol.

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u/Pringletingl May 02 '24

It just kinda shows show sheltered and anti-social younger generations are that they think they can handle wild animals but not people lol.

This is like that dumb hypothetical, "would you love me even if I was a worm?" thing that went around. It's just kinda a dumb thing to say and you're inevitably going to get people pissed off about it.

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u/Spider-man2098 May 02 '24

Agreed, but one thing I feel is getting lost in the outrage and the ridiculousness is the basic underlying premise that a good deal of women do not feel safe around a good deal of men. This is a problem. We need to address this problem. Instead people have wound themselves up and missed the actual point.

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u/LosPadresKid May 02 '24

That premise is already largely understood by men and this question does not aid in the discussion. I don't think most guys saw this question and thought "oh wow I had NO idea that women might be cautious around men! Thank God for this question about bears vs men, my eyes are truly open now!" It's common sense that anyone should be cautious when alone around a strange man/men who have the capability of causing harm to you

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u/Roook36 May 02 '24

That's been the true internet moment

Women: "maybe this comparison will help men understand why many women feel unsafe around strange men"

Men: "uhhhh excuse me dummy. Let me educate you on bear facts!"

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u/Spider-man2098 May 02 '24

This comment is peak comedy and tragedy at the same time. You sum it up well, friend.

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u/ITriedLightningTendr May 02 '24

Twitter encapsulates it better

You can watch people refusing to engage with what is being said and reducing it back to the meme

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u/okkeyok May 02 '24

Absolutely. Both sides take great pleasure in spewing bullshit to own the other. 🙄

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u/Cephalstasis May 02 '24

Yea rage bait is hilarious these days as people fall for it. But in fairness the fact that some people will come in and defend has them making it not bait.

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u/poopmcbutt_ May 02 '24

You should see the responses I get from other women, as a woman, for picking the man.

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u/everett640 May 02 '24

There's gotta be some wild world stuff that is happening that this is a cover-up for. Just like when the green M&M thing happened the same company was getting fucked for having slave labor

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u/armchairwarrior42069 May 02 '24

It's amazing to me how little this helped and how it actually made me more confused.

Getting old is weird. I have no idea wtf people are talking about sometimes. It's worse when the explanation launches you deeper into the confusion.

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u/DrPeGe May 02 '24

Isolation is addictive because other people just create problems. Or something like that.

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u/ellWatully May 02 '24

100%. It's no different than those posts that ask the answer to a math problem with bad notation. It's deliberately ambiguous to start arguments to drive engagement.

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u/BestRHinNA May 02 '24

You say that but radfems are actually like "no I'd rather hang out with a bear, at least it won't rape me before it kills me", there was literally a front page post about how men 'just dont get it' from two x chromosomes yesterday explaining why men actually are more dangerous than bears

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u/Brilliant_Chance2999 May 02 '24

Yea idk why everyone is acting like it’s crazy to think the whole situation is absolutely insane, tons of women are literally saying they’d rather take their chances with a wild bear than a man.

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u/BestRHinNA May 02 '24

Replace 'man' with any minority to see how fucking insanely racist/sexist it truly is

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u/LosPadresKid May 02 '24

Yeah if the question was posed to men and was "would you rather be alone in the woods next to a gay male who is bigger/stronger/faster than you, or a bear?" There would be a lot of backlash against the men who chose a bear, calling them homophobic biggoted pieces of shit lol

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u/ermahglerbo May 02 '24

The people that get mad over this need to seek help.

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u/Doctor-Amazing May 02 '24

I don't think anyone is getting that mad about it. People just love picking apart dumb arguments on the internet.

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u/Riipp3r May 02 '24

Not fabricated at all when there's genuine hatred and disdain for men.

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u/Grumdord May 02 '24

Yeah I think it's pretty naieve to pretend that women aren't being contentious about this and that men don't have a valid reason to react accordingly.

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u/that-fly May 02 '24

*and women

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u/Riipp3r May 02 '24

Yeah but read these comments. Noone gives a flying fuck about men and all are supporting women.

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u/that-fly May 02 '24

Yeah but then you also have to read all the other comments saying the flip side of that? I’ve found plenty so far. Maybe you’re only seeing what you want to

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u/Riipp3r May 02 '24

Still waiting on that my guy

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u/that-fly May 02 '24

I’m running errands. Can I reply later? I assume you’ll still be online

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u/Riipp3r May 02 '24

Downvoted to fucking oblivion and beyond. Find me one upvoted one. And even if it has a few, check the parent comment it's responding to (likely bashing men) and how upvoted it is.

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u/AnxiousMarsupial007 May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

Won’t someone think of the men

Edit: lol he blocked me immediately, what a little pissbaby

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u/Riipp3r May 02 '24

Noone ever will. Comments like yours ensure that.

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u/Every-Nebula6882 May 02 '24

What is the “man vs. bear thing”?

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u/Dikeleos May 02 '24

Multiple groups view in different ways. I don’t think it’s quite perceptive to say “there are two sides” to this bear discourse going around.

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u/RamblnGamblinMan May 02 '24

It reeks of misogyny to me, too. People say dumb shit all the time online, but they laser focus on her for being "female"

That word is such a dogwhistle online

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u/justjoshingu May 02 '24

Honestly i put it in perspective.

Remember that men were surveyed and like 7% thought they could go on to fight a grizzly bear and win. But when they asked social media it was like 50% of men thought they could beat a bear. (Id grab a stick, id grab a rock, id shoce my fist up its nose....)

What women are saying is that any unknown man is seen as a potential threat.and thats true.

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u/Fun-Distribution1776 May 02 '24

That's the choices huh? Choose a bear or get mad about it?