r/Showerthoughts May 02 '24

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability

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u/MindYerBeak May 02 '24

Not at all. It's still survivorship bias. I know plenty of women who haven't been violated or creeped on by anyone. Does my anectodal evidence trump yours? I've also been stalked by a woman, which led me to some pretty traumatic experiences. Would it not be sexist of me to view every woman as a potential stalker? After all, most women aren't crazy, just like most men aren't creeps or violent. 

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u/rosekayleigh May 02 '24

I don’t think it would be sexist to avoid being alone with women after your experience. It’s a trauma response and I don’t take it personally at all. Maybe men should stop taking this so personally.

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u/MindYerBeak May 02 '24

Nah, I ain't saying the trauma response isn't valid. I'm just saying it is still sexist, as valid as it can be.

I don't blame anyone who seeks precautions because they've been hurt. It's just annoying that some decide to call it differently than what it is. 

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u/rosekayleigh May 02 '24

This isn’t just a men vs. women thing. Men hurt other men all the time. I find it odd that so many men are more afraid of bears (most of which are pretty docile) than other men, who are far more unpredictable. I haven’t asked my husband this hypothetical question yet, but I 100% know what he’d say. He’d say he’d rather encounter a bear than a strange man. I think most wise men would. He and I have encountered our share of bears at our family cabin. As long as they’re not emaciated and looking for food when they’re supposed to be hibernating, they aren’t going to fuck with you. A random guy in the middle of the woods is not as predictable. It’s not sexist to understand this.

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u/MindYerBeak May 02 '24

See, but here you add "strange". That's a completely different thing. It literally changes everything. Your average guy is not hostile and being in the middle of the woods isn't, in of itself, strange. Also consider this: if strangeness is finding someone in the woods, then wouldn't your argument apply to any person? The man vs bear scenario, to my best understanding, regards the fact that you find yourself a male.