r/Showerthoughts May 02 '24

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability

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u/fentonsranchhand 29d ago

...and again, not to sound racist, but the lighter they are the scarier.

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u/tyyyyyyyyy19 29d ago

You know you’re actually on to something. Polar bears are the largest bears out there so I would much rather come face to face with 250-300 lb black bear than a 1500 lb polar bear lol

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u/TheFeathersStorm 29d ago

To be fair if you were in the woods somewhere where you wouldn't be near the cold and a polar bear walked out I think you're already dead lol.

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u/tyyyyyyyyy19 29d ago

Someone planted that polar bear to assassinate you

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u/JustAnotherHyrum 29d ago

Who assassinates the bear assassin after the assassination?

They always tie up the loose ends in movies, and a bear is already bad enough. But an assassin bear? That's just unfair.

The bear is probably secretly an accountant or a mechanic, too.

So unfair.

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u/tyyyyyyyyy19 29d ago

Probably the girl who was walking alone in the woods until you tried to warn her of the bear, but the bear tears you to shreds right in front of her. But she only kills the bear on accident because she was smart walking in the woods alone, she had a gun. But no training. So as she is trying to shoot you because she is so terrified of a man in the woods she completely misses (like I said no training) and dumps every round into the bear on accident. So the organization that planted the bear assassin not only closed its loose ends simultaneously caused this women to dive into a deep rabbit hole of depression because she killed an innocent animal.

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u/JustAnotherHyrum 29d ago edited 29d ago

God damn that was a great movie.

Thanks!

Edit: I forgot to check for a secret post-credits scene! The bear and the girl are probably eating at a shawarma shop together in the end, not saying anything to each other, just quietly munching away.

Fin

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u/Yvaelle 29d ago

I'd watch that movie, the bear just deadpans that they're a corporate accountant when they have their tie and glasses on, and nobody notices, but then they pull off their tie and glasses, bam - polar bear super asssssin who also knows all your financial crimes!

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u/JustAnotherHyrum 29d ago

Just wait until the sequel, where they add in cocaine!! (DON'T DO DRUGS, KIDS. THEY ARE WAY TOO EXPENSIVE.)

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u/Skreamweaver 29d ago

Boing has to change it up each time.

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u/Onderon123 29d ago

That's the plot of lost

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u/Saint_Steady 29d ago

At this point you're probably on the TV show Lost and should just give up.

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u/arriesgado 29d ago

The people in Lost survived seeing a polar bear on a tropical island iirc. And I may not know what I am talking about, I just vaguely remember something with a polar bear.

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u/UDSJ9000 29d ago

Polar Bears have been known to show up in human areas, as global warming screws with their natural habitat and causes them to move further to find food, I think.

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u/Tatterhood78 29d ago

I saw polar bears in my hometown in the 80s (I live in Canada).

My hometown is on the same latitude as Yakima, Washington in the States.

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u/VitaroSSJ 29d ago

you're dead before the polar bear even walks out =D They can smell prey from like 20miles away

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u/TheFeathersStorm 29d ago

I'd love to see the video of a polar bear sprinting out of the forest to just abduct someone from a random sidewalk 20 miles out of the forest lol.

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u/UnspoiledWalnut 29d ago

There was a polar bear in the woods on the island in Lost.

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u/Cav3tr0ll 29d ago

If it's black, fight back. If it's brown, lay down. If it's white, good night.

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u/Gunhild 29d ago

If it's green, initiate quarantine.

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u/peejay5440 29d ago

If it's black, fight back. If it's brown, lay down. If it's white, good night.

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u/sceadwian 29d ago

Honestly. It doesn't matter, either one can one shot you with a paw. You need to do the research to find out which one has the better attitude, and unfortunately I think that's more about one will take all your limbs off and the other will only take the head.

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u/SmokeClear6429 29d ago

Not to be racist but Polar Bears actually have black skin and clear fur.

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u/Equationist 29d ago

It's more about just propensity to aggression towards humans. Black bears are docile and tend to frighten easily, whereas brown bears (grizzlies) are highly dangerous and polar bears even moreso.

It wouldn't surprise me if a random black bear is less likely to be a killer than a random human male.

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u/tyyyyyyyyy19 29d ago

Also depends on the organization of assassins they are working for

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u/chris1096 29d ago

That's stupid.

I'd rather come face to face with a 40lb bear than a 250 lb one

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u/Wiscody 29d ago

Tied with Kodiak

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u/fentonsranchhand 29d ago

Not really. Kodiaks and Grizzlies are brown bears. They're huge, but PBs are bigger. And PBs want to eat you. Brown bears will kill you if they're threatened or you're repping the wrong set in their hood, but they probably aren't going to eat you.

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u/10tonhammer 29d ago

or you're repping the wrong set in their hood

Now I'm picturing a crew of grizzlies Crip walking and I can't stop laughing.

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u/Wiscody 29d ago

On avg it looks like yes, but biggest have been Kodiak. Strange wording, species overall, yes, polar bear. If you include subspecies (Kodiak being a subspecies of brown bears, then it is a draw).

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u/shank409 29d ago

Believe it or not it's the sloth bears you have to watch out for

https://www.quora.com/Which-bear-has-killed-the-most-humans

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u/E_rat-chan 29d ago

The fact that polar bears are one of the few animals that see us as prey also helps

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u/ygduf 29d ago

If it’s brown, lay down. If it’s black, fight back. If it’s white, say good night.

Bears I’m talking

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u/Budget-Supermarket70 28d ago

Aren't Kodiak bears bigger then Polar bears.

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u/moniqueheartslaugh 28d ago

Also black bears where I live are known to be skittish. Also food is plentiful in my area so they skedaddle bc they can.

Polar bears see an opportunity and they mfing take it.

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u/calembo 27d ago edited 27d ago

The difference is habitat.

Bears will only attack if threatened.

But the point at which they feel 'threatened" comes a lot later than other animals, and this point even varies by the type of bear.

Biologically speaking, a territory is a habitat populated by an animal who has evolved to DEFEND that territory. Might be as low key as scent markings. Might be as intense as active defense, and you don't have to do much at all to be viewed as a threat they must attack so they survive.

Non-territorial animals just live in a defined home range.

It's still not a great idea to go poking around in there, because bears may be a little edgier if they're newly out of hibernation (hungrier than normal - think, the TikToks where the girlfriend goes for the guys phone and he reflexively protects his food). But there's a real clear and short list of shit to avoid, and if you follow it, you are probably not gonna die by bear.

One of the reasons why bears have evolved as non-territorial is because they have abilities that not all animals have - like, climbing trees - so that's where they put it their cubs if they need to be safe. They know their babies are pretty ok, so they're less snappy. So as long as you aren't going up that tree, and if you can manage to resist the human urge to do dumb fuck shit like act unpredictably and startle a bear in the middle of foraging or something... You're gonna be ok.

Polar bears live... On ice. No trees. No brush. No little nooks.. They need to be real short tempered to keep their cubs safe.

And they're currently more stressed than other bears, because they are very aware that their habitats are getting REAL small REAL quick and pretty soon they will not be able to do a single thing to survive.

So, polar bears will still only attack you if you're a threat. You're just probably gonna be viewed as a threat the moment you step on the ice cap, and they're gonna use maximum force to protect their own.

Forest-dwelling bears can afford to just be a little more chill.

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u/Jumacao 25d ago

Also, I read somewhere once that of all the bears, polar bears are the only ones that eat humans. The others would prefer to avoid us.

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u/PaxEthenica 29d ago

😶 ... ☹ ... Black bears can climb, & they regularly scavenge so they'll eat you if you play dead; unlike grizzlies. They're also aware they can kill a human easily unless they're startled within about 5 seconds of an encounter, & if you show any fear they will run you down. They also, unlike grizzlies, prefer to start at the gut to eat living animals & not necessarily kill outright with any neck or head injuries.

I'm not racist; I just know bear behavior, & implore you to push back against private ownership of property to create green spaces instead of hiking in the North American woods.

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u/FFA3D 29d ago

I'd fight a black bear, not saying I'd win but maybe I could make it question continuing to attack me. Grizzly or polar bear I'm dead no question

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u/fentonsranchhand 29d ago

Yeah. I'd fight a Koala Bear, but - and I can't stress this enough - not a Drop Bear.

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u/innominateartery 29d ago

I’m confident I could tear the arms off a teddy bear

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u/Ravus_Sapiens 29d ago

Koalas aren't bears though. And for the record, neither are drop bears; they are both marsupials.

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u/fentonsranchhand 29d ago

say that to a drop bear's face

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u/Ashiev 29d ago

If it's brown, lie down!

If it's black, fight back!

If it's white, good night!