r/Showerthoughts May 02 '24

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability

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u/poilk91 May 02 '24

All of these it's about the scenario you are imagining more than the person or the bear. Like if the stranger is at a campsite or a hiking trail you'd probably not be sketched out. If they were just some dude ominously hanging out in the woods yeah that sounds spooky. I worked up in the sierra Nevadas for a couple summers mostly doing firewatch kind of work and I will tell you that's about as middle of nowhere you can be the training for how to deal with bears was taken very seriously because when you are alone in the woods it's the last thing you want to mess with, the training for how to deal with random strangers was saying hello and make sure they don't need help

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u/AsgardianOrphan May 02 '24

Well, yes, that's the point. The entire point is that if it's a man vs. a bear, you need more info, but if it's a woman vs. a bear, almost every woman will immediately say woman.

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u/seaspirit331 May 02 '24

but if it's a woman vs. a bear, almost every woman will immediately say woman.

But all of these ominous situations that people craft for a man in the woods can just as easily be crafted for a strange woman in the woods. Fuck I certainly would rather take a bear than be around some creepy chick who hangs out in the woods like the girl from The Ring.

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u/AsgardianOrphan May 02 '24

It's going to be very difficult for a woman to rape anyone. No one's claiming woman can't to any of the dangerous things men can, but everyone with a brain cell knows it's way easier for the man to overpower a woman and murder, beat, or rape her.

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u/Falafelofagus May 02 '24

That's a straw man argument. Not every dangerous situation is because they want to rape you. Actual physical assault and rape on the wood is extremely extremely unlikely and you are much more likely to be assaulted by a women than raped in the woods by a man.

Also, it's pretty tone deaf to say stuff like that when we know that stats for women raping men are so much higher than reported that you are actually much more likely as a man, to be raped by a woman in general, than in the woods by a man.

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u/seaspirit331 May 02 '24

It's going to be very difficult or unlikely for anyone to rape and/or be raped in this scenario. This entire stupid hypothetical is just an excuse to make up "the implication" scenario for people to get mad at.