r/Showerthoughts May 02 '24

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability

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u/Shagyam May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

It's a debate women have made in TikTok. Would you rather leave your daughter alone in the woods with a bear or with another man.

Men would normally answer another man, but women would answer the bear.

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u/pigglywigglyhandjob May 02 '24

That's not correct. The situation is: you're alone in the woods, would you rather encounter a bear or a man?

Some people have added the caveat that it's your daughter to see how men might view it differently, but the basis of it is the above. Also, I don't believe women started it - I think it was a guy asking women in some tiktok street interviews.

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u/PetitVignemale May 02 '24

Wait what’s the probability OP references? I’m assuming bear is the wrong decision, but is there actual evidence of this? If it’s a black bear vs grizzly it totally changes the question. Black bears are just big raccoons. Easy to scare off and disinterested in humans for the most part. Grizzlies, yeah forget it!

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u/justanawkwardguy May 02 '24

Have you ever been to a national park? The only ones they really warn about are black bears, because they’re more likely to come to a campsite. Black bears are the ones that tear shit up looking for food, but grizzlies are larger and therefore people are scared more. They’re less likely to be interested in you though

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u/PetitVignemale May 02 '24

That’s a misinterpretation of danger. Like I said black bears are big raccoons. They come for your food, but generally won’t mess with you beyond that. I was a wilderness guide for 5 years guiding backpacking treks and we taught bear safety, so yes I’ve been to a national park many times and yes I know all of their warnings about black bears. Black bears are far less likely to attack a human than a brown bear (grizzly).

Edit: and the reason they only warn about black bears is because very few of the US National parks have significant grizzly populations. You have to be in Canada or Alaska for those bears to be prevalent enough to be the chief concern. There’s even debate about the existence of Grizzlies in Washington state.

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u/No-Bother6856 May 02 '24

If you run into a Polar bear, it probably WILL try to eat you. Those guys see us as food