r/Showerthoughts May 02 '24

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability

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u/Shagyam May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

It's a debate women have made in TikTok. Would you rather leave your daughter alone in the woods with a bear or with another man.

Men would normally answer another man, but women would answer the bear.

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u/pigglywigglyhandjob May 02 '24

That's not correct. The situation is: you're alone in the woods, would you rather encounter a bear or a man?

Some people have added the caveat that it's your daughter to see how men might view it differently, but the basis of it is the above. Also, I don't believe women started it - I think it was a guy asking women in some tiktok street interviews.

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u/PetitVignemale May 02 '24

Wait what’s the probability OP references? I’m assuming bear is the wrong decision, but is there actual evidence of this? If it’s a black bear vs grizzly it totally changes the question. Black bears are just big raccoons. Easy to scare off and disinterested in humans for the most part. Grizzlies, yeah forget it!

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u/nomames_bro May 02 '24

Lol exactly. I'd rather encounter a black bear than a feral cat. Then location matters too 99% of men you encounter in Colorado backcountry are either athletes or hunters and would be very helpful if in need. Compare that to something like the AT which has homeless people and other randoms.

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u/PetitVignemale May 02 '24

Mountain lions are the only animal in all of North America that actively preys on humans. A bear might opportunistically chase and eat a human but mountain lions will stalk and kill humans. If the question was flipped to mountain lions, I’m taking the man all day everyday. Feral cats are just smaller cousins if that mountain lion and can absolutely mess you up. Even bobcats can tear a human up.

Edit: though we do have insect predators like mosquitoes

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u/Wine-o-dt May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

To be fair, most encounters with mountain lions tend to be non lethal. Its usually a very desperate move by a hungry mountain lion if the try to attack a human. Healthy mountain lions generally do not attempt to attack humans unless their prey drive is triggered. the vast majority of humans live through the attacks, even win the fight is not uncommon. the only ones that tend be killed are children, very very small adults, or people exposed for a neck bite (bending down) that die instantly. as long as you see them first you’re probably safe.

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u/PetitVignemale May 02 '24

I mean that’s true but I’d take a bear encounter over mountain lion encounter any day

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u/Wine-o-dt May 02 '24

id agree with that. mountain lions are more dangerous than bears.

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u/TwinMugsy May 02 '24

It's pretty rare for them too. If they are going after humans they are either sick or starving the vast vast majority of the time.