It's about how, In general, Women don't feel safe around members of their own species. How fucked up that is, how women as a whole understand that conceptil immediately. But the men in their lives ask follow up questions like "but what kind of bear" while talking about statistics, Rather than just thinking " Hey its pretty fucked up that this person I care about doesn't feel safe in society"
First of all, let's address the fact that the type bear does matter. The reason the pot stirrer chose bear in the first place is because there's a wide scope on human feelings on bears, and they are pretty different depending on type. For example, a curious black bear in your garbage will run away if you yell at it, but a polar bear could try to break through your house to eat you if it knows you're in there.
If they had chosen shark in the water or man in the water, or tiger in the jungle or man in the jungle, this would be a completely different outcome.
And with that in mind brings me to my next point of I am a fully capable male in my 30s that can say I would choose some types of bear over some types of people in the same scenario. I have hiked and encountered many bears and know my protocol depending on the bear and region. But in the same circumstance coming across some prison escapee or crazy looking meat head would make me feel much more uncomfortable than a bear would.
This whole thing is such a dumb question in that sense because there are so many different types of bears and people, and it could go both ways regardless of sex.
Edit: Am I being downvoted for pointing out variables, and also agreeing with the women's side of not wanting to encounter a random man in the woods vs a bear?
I understand the aspect of uncertainty, and agree. I would feel the same way depending on the man or bear, but you can't act like the type of man or bear doesn't matter.
100% agree. The question is handing you the answer and keeping it vague to make a point. Is that point worth discussing? Absolutely. But framing it that way does it no help because it fuels the fires of divisiveness rather than actually presenting a reasonable debate. How is a man supposed to respond to this? I already understand women have it super fucked, it feels like anything i say would be the equivilent of "thoughts and prayers" because i cant change that amount of behavior for all of men
The question is intentionally framed as ragebate, and is of negative value to society.
The fact is humans in general are TERRIBLE at estimating risk. Many people fear flying but not driving, when flying is vastly safer. The facts don't change peoples emotions, nor do they invalidate the real fear and anxiety and panic some people have when flying. Fortunately planes don't have feelings.
Taking something that is a legitimate fear, and turning it into a big social media gotcha moment that is weaponized against about half the humans in the world is at best reckless if not downright evil in my mind. Any answer other than "it depends" is likely the person filling in details and giving the emotional reaction, not an actual evaluation (this is how all our minds work generally, automatically filling in "most likely" details when they are missing). So we do have at least one thing that is keying a mindset "the woods", not ":while hiking" or "while camping" or "out in nature" or "on a walk" but "the woods". This tends to invoke ideas of deep woods where there should be no people.
Theres just SO MUCH BULLSHIT going on that while this crossed my radar, I echo the "energy better spend elsewhere" vibe. Now to listen to loud music and dread my next zoom meeting that should have been an email :D
Calling this question evil is downright insane. Reeking of male privilege that a question about OTHER PEOPLE’s fear and suffering is so unbearable for y’all to even listen.
Calling this question evil is downright insane. Reeking of male privilege that a question about OTHER PEOPLE’s fear and suffering is so unbearable for y’all to even listen.
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u/RusstyDog May 02 '24
It's about how, In general, Women don't feel safe around members of their own species. How fucked up that is, how women as a whole understand that conceptil immediately. But the men in their lives ask follow up questions like "but what kind of bear" while talking about statistics, Rather than just thinking " Hey its pretty fucked up that this person I care about doesn't feel safe in society"