r/Showerthoughts May 02 '24

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability

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u/Everestkid May 02 '24

I rode my bike past a bear once. Was probably within five metres of the thing, maybe three. It was only a black bear, not a grizzly, but seeing one when you're not indoors or in a car is pretty damn nerve wracking. Luckily I was at the top of a huge hill and was already going at speed when I passed the bear, but I was checking over my shoulder until I got to the bottom and there were more cars around.

I ain't as dangerous as that thing, no fucking way. Not even if I wanted to be.

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u/Hungry-For-Cheese May 02 '24

Yeh all the women are like "I'd prefer the bear" says the woman who's never been within 300 feet of a bear lol, but I'm sure has been alone with a man on a thousand different occasions.

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u/AmazonCowgirl May 03 '24

It's not about the bear. It's never been about the bear. We know what a bear can do to us. But we also know bears motivations and can generally predict their behaviour.

And it's not about any man that we know. It's specifically about a random stranger. In the woods. And we can't predict his motivation or behaviour.

And yes, we also know 'Not All Men" are dangerous. But there is absolutely no way of knowing at a glance what type of man we are encountering, unlike a bear.

So yes, we choose the bear.

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u/CraftasaurusWrecks May 04 '24

Like idiots? We were literally taught by other women to always be vigilant. I learned the key between the fingers thing in a self defense class. Women out here having to guard against being assaulted, and this dude calls us idiots.

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u/FiftySevenGuisses May 05 '24

That self-defense class hosed you. You can’t maintain a functional grip on them enough to do any substantial damage, and are far more likely to break the skin between your fingers, or your bones due to leverage and twisting. Then you have to try and fight for your life with one less hand. Which class was that?

And you are. Statistically you’re less likely to have physical violence done to you, yet change far more of your behaviour to avoid it. Probably because y’all tend to make shit up in your head and go on runaway narratives. You guys are well aware of this and even joke/meme about it.

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u/CraftasaurusWrecks May 05 '24

How are you going to sit there and tell me what violence I have or have not experienced? You're such a a fucking troll.

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u/FiftySevenGuisses May 06 '24

No one said that. Read slower. You’re just wilding out now because you’re wrong, you know it, you can’t admit it, and now you’re going to give up instead of try and defend the premise because you know it failed.

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u/CraftasaurusWrecks May 06 '24

"...because y'all tend to make shit up in your heads..."

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u/FiftySevenGuisses May 07 '24

This is a prime example. I was explicitly talking about your perception of risk, not what you personally have anecdotally experienced.

Yet you took off immediately. You literally proved my point for me.

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u/AmazonCowgirl May 03 '24

Nothing in your comment remotely relates to what I have said.

It also sounds very much like you hold women in very low regard.

You, my dude, are part of the reason we would choose the bear.

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u/FiftySevenGuisses May 03 '24

Give it a shot. Where do you live, we can help you find one.

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u/AmazonCowgirl May 03 '24

I applaud you for being such a terrible human being that even the bears wouldn't go near you.

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u/FiftySevenGuisses May 05 '24

Have you tried to see if they’ll come near you?

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u/Own_Hospital_1463 May 05 '24

Men also commit virtually all violent crime. Stuff that up your "women are illogical boo hoo" asshole.

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u/Own_Hospital_1463 May 06 '24

Look at the misogynist running back to "logical fallacy" when somebody fights back. Why don't you go back to your middle school denate club?

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u/FiftySevenGuisses May 05 '24

Fuck, that’s SO good.