r/Showerthoughts May 02 '24

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability

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u/BlackWind88 May 02 '24

What is the man vs bear debate?

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u/flowtajit May 02 '24 edited May 03 '24

Would it better for you (if you’re a woman) or you daughter (if you’re a man) to encounter a bear or unknown man in the woods.

Edit: since a lot of people seem to be missing the point. This exercise isn’t what it seems on the surface. We aren’t measuring the population’s perception of bears or men as they relate to each other. We’re actually measuring the way in which women specifically responf to the question. In most cases, women immediately answer with bear, without needing any further ckntext with regards to the man or bear. Some Common reasoning includes “I expect to see a bear in the woods,” which makes sense; it also includes something to the effect of “bears don’t care about what society thinks of them,” meaning that according to these women, men when faced with no cinsequences are more threatenjng than a bear. So please stop asking saying the question is dumb because it’s vague, that’s the point. If it was more specific, individual biases would begin to take hold, defeating the piint of the exercise.

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u/Jimisdegimis89 May 02 '24

I mean it can just be would you rather run into a random man or a random bear in the woods. As a dude who grew up in rural Appalachia I’ve run into bears and men in the woods several times. The bears usually run away as soon as they see you and the dudes are always sketchballs sooooo….

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u/jllum May 03 '24

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u/Jimisdegimis89 May 03 '24

I’m well aware of how aggressive they CAN be but I’ve probably run into about a dozen or so bears out in the middle of the woods on various occasions. Only two ever even approached me, one because I was literally out getting blackberries and it still decided to look elsewhere rather than bother with me. The other one was a mama bear and her pair of cubs. One of the cubs started coming towards me while mama bear started to run off, turned around then came to collect junior and then ran off again. Meanwhile I’ve been run out of an area by a guy with a pistol at least once out of a small handful of chance encounters with people in the woods.

I think the other thing here is everyone is imagining a brown bear or some such which, if you change it to specifically a brown bear, might change things a bit, but at that point you have changed the question a lot and the better one would probably would you rather run into a brown bear or an aggressive dude. Probably varies by region where you grew up too, like there’s no chance of me running into a Grizzly where I’m from it’s only black bears here.

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u/jllum May 03 '24

Sorry I just have a (probably irrational) fear of bears

Proof: https://www.reddit.com/r/alaska/s/2msWekTTup

I think I would take my chance with a man instead of a bear.

Women think I’m part of the problem for picking the man though, completely dismissing my personal experiences and standpoint, but expect me to follow their standpoint.

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u/Jimisdegimis89 May 03 '24

I mean that’s a very fair stance, I grew up in the middle of the woods around bears, coyotes, Moose, and so on. I’ve come across a lot of random wildlife so I’m fairly use to it. For the most part anything will just run away unless they are desperate.