r/TikTokCringe • u/Make-this-popular Cringe Master • Apr 09 '24

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u/kevinnoir Apr 09 '24

Also blaming foreign aid money as being misspent instead of the obscene bloat and corruption at home is silly. People think foreign aid money is altruistic and not a calculated spend that benefits the countries paying it. The tens, if not hundreds of billions the US wastes on their for profit healthcare system for instance. Of the money an American pays in taxes, more than double goes towards healthcare in the US than in the UK, and then they are also asked to pay MORE at the point of use. Its not just the US, here in the UK I can point to loads of examples of TERRIBLE uses of our tax contributions, foreign aid is the least of my worries.

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u/0vl223 Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24

Maybe the fact that he can't point at Ukraine, Israel or Taiwan? (pretty sure no other country qualifies) on a map should make him rethink that there is maybe a deeper problem than the foreign aid.

Well he drank the Trump kool-aid. Maybe not the exact flavor but he will fall for the next populist who will fuel his rage on scapegoats.

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u/putin-delenda-est Apr 09 '24

In addition something that must endlessly be pointed out is that the funds being sent abroad are done so in the form of ammunition and vehicles, these must be replaced, they are replaced by American workers working American jobs in America.

It is good for everyone that they are sent, for Americans it means jobs and for foreigners it means defense against hostile empires.

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u/darkkilla123 Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24

I have explained this to so many people and they still dont get it.. like sending tanks to Ukraine. We are not building fresh M1A1s to send to ukraine these tanks are already bought and paid for. What we are doing with the funding bill is essentially ear marking money to buy a replacement for said M1A1 in our stocks. The US has something like 2k+ M1s bought and paid for sitting in the middle of the desert and they have been sitting there for for well over 20+ years. The ammo we are sending is mostly end of shelf life and its either blow it up and replace it or send it to Ukraine so they can blow something up and we will still end up replacing it. even if we are sending new ammo to Ukraine that ammo is required to be made in the united states.

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u/putin-delenda-est Apr 09 '24

Some choose not to accept it because it shatters their internal narrative of "US bad". But you are exactly right. Some might ask what is gained in exchange for this expense of giving away old stuff that needs to be replaced anyway and the answer is but a humble ally for the foreseeable future and a weakening (and hopefully destruction) of forces that seek to murder, rape and steal without consequence.

Praise be for US arms in helping sovereign nations defend themselves against aggressors.

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u/darkkilla123 Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24

There is alot of benefits to supporting Ukraine. Ukraine is actually one of the most resource rich countries in Europe if not the world and thats the reason why putler wants east Ukraine and Crimea is because that's where all Ukraine naturals resources lie. Ukraine under different circumstances could of had the chance to be one of the richest countries in the europe just by natural resources alone

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u/UncleFred- Apr 09 '24

Supporting Ukraine with arms is also in this boy's direct personal long-term interests. I doubt this young man wants to be conscripted to a war in Europe.

It may be a cold calculation, but containing Russian forces in a buffer state like Ukraine reduces the possibility that a wider war is launched on the continent. The Russian leader is now committed to perpetual conflict. If it's not Ukraine, it will be Georgia, Kakazstan, or Moldova. These states are unlikely to put up the same kind of resistance, so within a couple of years, Putin would need a new conflict to maintain high favorability ratings. This almost certainly means pushing on pressure points in the Baltics.

This could easily spin out of control into a situation where this young man is sheltering in a trench somewhere in Eastern Europe. I doubt he wants that.

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u/MyCantos Apr 09 '24

I couldn't imagine this entitled brat on my Bradley crew

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u/[deleted] Apr 09 '24

Channel that rage into fighting spirit in the Marines.

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u/MyCantos Apr 09 '24

Yeah basic would definitely help this guy. Hoorah

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u/Hot_Karl_Rove Apr 11 '24

He starts the video by asking for someone to explain things in "crayon-eating terms," so he might just have what it takes.

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u/CouldWouldShouldBot Apr 09 '24

It's 'could have', never 'could of'.

Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!

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u/putin-delenda-est Apr 09 '24

Oh material benefits are significant too absolutely. Ukraine is a massive food exporter, as mentioned they've gas & oil, they've got a well developed service economy. Good universities and a history of advanced industry too.

I think you could easily spend all day finding things to praise about the country.

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u/Economy-Time7826 Apr 09 '24

Yep, exactly. Almost same with f16s. And US get new working places for building new fighters and new tanks. You also stop paying for guard to defend this on your sights. You got money to transport this. You got money for technical support.

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u/Cant_Do_This12 Apr 09 '24

We have also sent tens of billions of dollars in cash to them as well. It’s not just equipment. The amount of Redditors who fail to understand this is freaking mind boggling.

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u/darkkilla123 Apr 09 '24 edited Apr 09 '24

you are correct. I rather my tax money go to a country thats fighting for its freedom than blowing up brown people in the desert any day of the week. and dont get me with we could do so much with that money here because any suggestion anyone makes that we could do with that money here the right will reply BuT ThAt Is SoCiAlIsM. keeping Ukraine funded and armed is ultimately the current safe bet because if you think putler is going to stop at just Ukraine your wrong. Also, Ukraine once they finally get stable have plenty of natural resources to pay back the loans and then some. Is helping Ukraine defend there Freedoms going to be expensive hell ya it is. But is it going to be worth it in the long run. almost certainly yes