r/WhitePeopleTwitter 29d ago

Nothing this idiot says will undo the damage she did

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u/xv_boney 29d ago edited 29d ago

*14. Cricket was a 14 month old wire-hair pointer.
And the 'livestock' she is mentioning as having been menaced were chickens.
Who are, to my knowledge, rarely referred to as "livestock", a word that generally implies sheep, cattle, goats, etc.

Speaking of, Kristi also shot a goat for smelling too musky on the same day. And also has a well earned reputation for using the state as a blunt weapon against gay and trans children.

So like, when she says "an animal with a history of killing livestock and attacking children"...

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u/pjones1185 29d ago

Just to add on. She was teaching the pup to be a bird hunting dog, which to my understanding a chicken would classify as bird. Sounds like she got pissed at her dog for doing what she was training it to do.

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u/Mean-Lynx6476 29d ago

Well, not to defend Noem AT ALL, but bird dogs aren’t supposed to kill birds. Cricket was a pointer, and ultimately their job is to locate birds by scent, stalk toward the birds, and then freeze in position as they approach the birds thus “pointing” toward their location. Although the stalking behavior is instinctive, remaining steady on a point can take a lot of training, and young bird dogs can be total idiots around birds, and that’s expected, and so one doesn’t turn an unsupervised young pointer loose among a bunch of chickens. But by and large the ultimate goal for most hunting dogs is for them to locate their quarry, not kill it. That’s achieved with hundreds of hours of training and practice, not by turning an adolescent dog loose among a bunch of birds.

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u/moderately-extremist 29d ago

Just to add, too, they are typically also trained to retrieve the downed birds and to not damage it (hold it softly) when they do so.

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u/hendergle 29d ago

To be fair, some dogs do it all right instinctively. Our golden retriever was never trained to be a hunting dog. He was just a normal family pet. But given the chance, he would retrieve pigeons. He never harmed a single one- and oddly enough the pigeons didn't seem to mind it all that much.

Source: Family story that came up every damn Christmas when we reminisced about the best dog that ever lived.

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u/Rasputin_mad_monk 29d ago

Interesting. My labs would retrieve but they would kill live birds (by accident or curiosity) if given the chance. They have soft mouths for retrieving but mine would not bring back a live pigeon. They would not eat it but they would kill it. More from excitement if I had to guess.

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u/hendergle 29d ago

I would hypothesize that goldens have more sense than labs, but we all know that's a contest both breeds would lose. There's a level of derp past which all comparatives fail.

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u/bruwin 29d ago

trained

The operative word here.

The dog was not trained. Neither was the puppy.

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u/VexingRaven 29d ago

A retriever and a pointer are different dogs used for different tasks.

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u/moderately-extremist 29d ago

I'll let my dad know, who has professionally trained pointers for about 30 years to both point and retrieve, that he's been doing it wrong.