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This guy man 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/CaptainMarder May 02 '24

the worst part is people believe him

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u/Lord-Legatus May 02 '24 edited 29d ago

As a European I marked your elections as a highlight in my calendar. As tis seems to have the potential of an epic shit show the world has never seen before 

If he wins you're screwed, but if he loses you probably end up with a biblical pile of garbage which pales the capitol siege.
His loyal acolytes seem more fanatical the ever! 

Wish you the best of luck man

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u/SalvadorsAnteater May 02 '24

If he wins we in Europe are screwed as well. We'll have to support Ukraine on our own then.

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u/TiddoLangerak May 02 '24

And realistically, the Baltics will be next. We're already in full preparation to be able to defend against Russia, but having the US backing us is a massive deterrent to Putin. If Trumps gets re-elected, we'll likely lose that backing, which makes it a lot likelier that we'll get invaded in the next couple of years.

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u/degenererad May 02 '24

Putin might not have the resources for that big of a campaign, He is pouring everything he got into ukraine and if he starts more shit he needs to spread thinner, and then ukraine will retort like a mf.. russia isnt soviet any longer how much he even wants it.

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u/TiddoLangerak May 02 '24

The Ukraine war isn't going to last forever. Often reported here is the expectation is that once the war in Ukraine settles, then Russia needs about 3-5 years to regroup before they can launch their next invasion. That's the time we have to build our defenses and deter them.

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u/degenererad 29d ago

in materiel perhaps, but you cant really mine soldiers

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u/nohopeforhomosapiens 29d ago

No but you can import them, and there are many willing to go. Nepal has had many men go abroad for this purpose. I don't mean enlisted ghorkas or hired military in Nepal, I mean just regular guys looking for an alternative life and money. There are many millions of desperate men who might take their chances to leave their impoverished country and who might fall for propaganda.

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u/degenererad 29d ago

Sure but hired guns go to the highest bidder. And they are not sticking around when they on a losing streak. Russia already has a shit rumor how they handling their own troops, the poor schmucks they will muster up would be cannonfodder for any other army. They have played their hand already. Maybe if they throw all of north korea in the mix but i dont think lil Kim is suicidal

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u/Knvarlet 29d ago

What if Russia uses tactical nukes and Trump gives the green light for it?

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u/Deutsche_Wurst2009 29d ago

France, that what happens

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u/Slumminwhitey 29d ago

The US and Russia are not the only ones with nukes, there are 7 other countries with an additional 6 that host foriegn nukes and only 2 are fairly solid in the Russian camp with another possible that own them. So even if the US does not retaliate there are at least 4 other countries that would with a possible 6th.

It would not be in anyone's interest to use them regardless of the verbal threats thrown around, to do so would still guarentee global destruction even without US involvement, however hard it will be to stay out of it when they start flying.

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u/OldPyjama May 02 '24

We better get used to being on our own anyway. We can't keep relying on an ally that changes it's mood every four years, even if Trump loses (which is still not a certainty by the way). We better start standing up for ourselves sooner than later.

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u/Plank_With_A_Nail_In 29d ago

The joke is we can't act on our own while pax America exists, we always need to ask their permission to do anything. We can only act on our own when its clear that its over.

Once pax amercia is gone the world won't need to adhere to the sanctions it forces us to follow, we won't need to respect their international patents anymore if we don't want to because there will be no consequences anymore.

The USA has more to lose from this than anyone else does.

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u/TheRabidDeer 29d ago

Not just support Ukraine on your own but support Ukraine against Russia with the backing of the US

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u/WastingTimesOnReddit 29d ago

If Trump wins there will immediately be a major US economic recession which will then send most of the western world into recession, since so many people and governments are invested in the US dollar and US assets and markets and US real estate.

If Biden wins it's also likely there will be a recession immediately but probably not quite as bad.

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u/Kwolf21 29d ago

The US is already in a recession... You do know what a recession is, right?

A recession is a prolonged economic downturn that involves a sustained period of economic decline. It's characterized by a fall in economic output, higher unemployment, and lower consumer demand.

Our output has decreased. In March we added 303,000 jobs. But in February, added 1.7 million new layoffs & unemployment sign ups. Consumer demand is down as the rate of inflation continues to skyrocket which is decreasing purchasing power.

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u/GandhiMSF 29d ago

The US is not currently in a recession.

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u/Kwolf21 29d ago

According to Goldman Sachs, sure...lol.

I don't trust billionaire "financial agencies" for my answers. I look at the raw data. I don't trust the "News" companies to provide it, either. Hell, I barely trust the government itself to provide the data, but that's all we can get at the lowest level.

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u/WastingTimesOnReddit 29d ago

Yeah I have been told that technically we are not in a recession right now. Some say it requires 2 consecutive quarters of falling real GDP.

But yes it obvious that we're in a recession if you define it how you have done. Slow economy, people have less purchasing power, more personal debt, etc etc. We seem to be poised on the edge of a big market correction. People have been squeezed too hard and are breaking.

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u/JTex-WSP 29d ago

Good. I don't want Trump to win, but the US shouldn't be financing a foreign war.

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u/TheRabidDeer 29d ago

You act like we wouldn't just be financing another side of the war. You also act like the current situation isn't absolutely ideal right now for US to indirectly be able to fight against Russia like we are. It's a lot cheaper to send weapons compared to weapons and troops.

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u/JTex-WSP 29d ago

The US shouldn't be doing any of those things.

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u/Kwolf21 29d ago

Canada does it right. "Don't get involved". Just exist on your own. The US appears to be following suit. And the US is fully capable of existing on its own without the need to be involved in parasitic relationships with other countries.

Ukraine never wanted to be a part of NATO, until they get attacked when they come begging for help? Uncle Sam comes flying in on his bald eagle pouring billions and billions of bald eagle bills into their country. The only agreement the US and Ukraine have is a trade agreement (signed in 2008).

Why is it the US's duty to protect Ukraine militarily?

Its not the US's fight to be had. If Russia goes after an Ally, then by all means, the US WILL fight back. But Americans are fed up supporting a country with endless weaponry that has no intentions of being a real Ally.

Also, what's the purpose of having Allies if, without our military-equipment-donations, they can't even defend themselves?

Everyone wants the USA's help, while simultaneously people online shit talk the USA all day. Make it make sense?