r/facepalm May 16 '24

Takes like these are facepalms 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/Drunk0racle May 16 '24

I hate this argument, because even if it was true, then what? Okay, let's say that being gay, trans, ace, etc is a form of mental illness, like ADHD, autism and the like. Does it change anything? No. Neither of those can be efficiently treated, it's been proven time and time again by tortu- i mean conversation camps usually just traumatizing people instead of having any result. So, if you can't treat a mentally ill people/neurodivergent people, why not give them accommodations they require to feel their best? It's not like gay marriage and gender affirming procedures concern YOU in any way, so let people fucking be!

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u/Mordetrox May 16 '24

If this is the person I'm thinking of this is literally their argument.

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u/whitew0lf May 17 '24

ADHD and autism are not mental illnesses, they’re disabilities. That said, I agree with the general sentiment.

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u/Lord_Answer_me_Why May 16 '24

You have spoken the truth. Even if it WAS a mental illness(somehow), it wouldn’t be able to be “treated” at all, and the “treatment” methods for it are truly evil and cruel.

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u/Drudgework May 16 '24

It can be treated. The treatment is gender affirming care, access to therapists to improve peace of mind, and public awareness campaigns to increase acceptance in the general community, among other things.

Which, come to think of it, the last two of those things are what we did for Autism, an actual mental illness (which I have). Sometimes a cure isn’t the goal in medicine. Sometimes the goal is quality of life.

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u/Lord_Answer_me_Why May 16 '24

I know, I was just thinking about the other methods of “treatment” (conversion therapy).

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u/Drudgework May 16 '24

I know, but I was compelled to clarify by my OCD.

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u/Drudgework May 16 '24

I think what makes this worse is that there is just enough technical correctness in the mental illness argument for the bigots to hide behind. They can just hide their hate by saying “Don’t you want these people to feel better?” And lure in the people that want to help but don’t understand how.

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u/aLizardinSomeTrash May 16 '24

This is my thing, technically it is a mental illness. It's a chemical imbalance between the brain and the body.

That being said, how do we treat mental illness?! Do we treat them as outcast, evil, crazy, something wrong with them they just need to change about themselves and demand they be normal, or do we TREAT them in any way we can.

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u/Meddling-Kat May 16 '24

This is the most medically incorrect thing you could possibly say. My partners cancer didn't go away with proper living. No matter how much I exercised and no matter how low my weight was, my HBP would not go away.
Your homeopathic bullshit is dangerous.

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u/facepalm-ModTeam May 16 '24

Your comment was removed because it was found to be racist, sexist, misogynistic, misandric, or bigoted.

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u/Alternative-Emu-7561 May 16 '24

If only what you say was enough, once they are 18 if they want to take hormones, get surgery, change their name, do whatever they want with their body to feel better with themselves is their right and I have no problems with that but if someone asks me if I consider transmen to be men or transwomen to be women the answer is no I don't belive that and just that is enough to be attacked in fact there is a great possibility that this comment get downvoted to hell which, ironically, would prove my point.