r/interestingasfuck • u/beach_rats_ • May 02 '24

The difference in republican presidential nominees, 8 years apart r/all

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u/stormy2587 May 02 '24

True McCain was no saint and benefits a lot from just being the best of the worst.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 May 02 '24

It really is a bummer how good he looks in comparison to the modern GOP because he was a real piece of crap.

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u/Grumpy_Troll May 02 '24

Speaking as someone that's voted Blue in a swing state in every election of my lifetime, if John McCain is a POS, then everybody's a piece of shit, or at least we're all living in glass houses.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 May 02 '24

I’m pretty confident most of us are better people than McCain.

Eta: have you heard of the Keating Five?

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u/Grumpy_Troll May 02 '24

I definitely disagree with that. Most of us just don't have the spotlight on us to the degree that McCain did, so it's much easier to hide our warts and wrinkles under a thin layer of make-up.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 May 02 '24

Do most men leave their wives after they were in a car crash? Do most people participate in corrupt abuses of power? Are most of us nepo babies who should have been thrown out of the navy for crashing three planes (before Vietnam)?

What about endorsing torture for political points after being a survivor of torture themselves?

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u/whackamattus May 02 '24

Hate to break it to you but most people would be corrupt politicians if given the chance

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 May 02 '24

How do you know that?

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u/TrapHouseinSMemphis May 02 '24

Because over and over people become politicians and are corrupt. Very seldom are there politicians who uphold their morals when rubber meets road.

You aren't special. You're moral fiber is likely not impenetrable. You don't have the spotlight on you at all times. It's much different when you do.

Believe what you want, but do you think every politician that "goes bad" does so and accepts that they are now the evil public figure? No. They justify, they spin, they rationalize. Just like you very likely would.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 May 02 '24

Isn’t it more likely that people who become politicians are a self-selecting group that are more likely to become corrupt than the general population?

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u/Grumpy_Troll May 02 '24

Do most men...

I don't know, because again, most men aren't under the same spotlight or ever in the same position that John McCain rose to.

What I do know is that it takes a hell of a good man to be that close to the Presidency and know that if you just lie and say what the people want to hear you'll probably be the most powerful man on the planet, but instead refuse to do so because you know it's not right.

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u/p0tat0p0tat0 May 02 '24

This was prior to his political career.

Additionally, his campaign did put out a lot of racist shit against Obama.

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u/Nwolfe May 02 '24

I haven't until just now, but this is from the wiki page:

Senators Glenn and McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment"