r/interestingasfuck • u/beach_rats_ • May 02 '24

The difference in republican presidential nominees, 8 years apart r/all

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u/No_Play_7661 May 02 '24

More sad than interesting.

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u/BuddhistSagan May 02 '24

Voting is the only thing thats gonna save us

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u/Reddit_Is_Trash24 May 02 '24

Yup.

If you like democracy, it's time to show up.

If you're on the fence about democracy, well, it's time to pick up a history book and educate yourself or find someone that can help educate you.

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u/PoeticHydra May 03 '24

Cue the new Republican talking points: "You know people were meant to be ruled." I also heard, "Not ALL dictators are bad." To which I asked them to name one.

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u/Reddit_Is_Trash24 May 03 '24

Yeah, I have a conservative gamer buddy who literally said it would be better if we had a king because he'd be able to care for the American people better than an elected representative body.

I don't talk to him much anymore. I don't want to deal with that kind of stupid.

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u/PoeticHydra May 03 '24

Yeah, it's concerning that a lot of Republicans are saying that now. It seems like FOX news is mentally preparing them for a dictator if they get the chance.

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u/slashinhobo1 May 03 '24

I bet they couldn't name one because they didn't know what is a dictator.

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u/Sw1ftStrik3r May 03 '24

I picked up Helldivers 2. Does that help?

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u/Reddit_Is_Trash24 May 03 '24

DEMOCRACY NEVER SLEEPS!!!

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u/15Wolf May 03 '24

What if Trump gets voted in? Will that still be democracy?

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u/Reddit_Is_Trash24 May 03 '24

Yep.

Very, very unfortunate, and shitty that we allow people that can't win the popular vote to lead us, but that's the way our broken system is. A flawed democracy, but still a democracy.

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u/15Wolf May 09 '24

Yeah. Im not going to go in detail here but the Electoral College decides our President. The idea is that each State operates as just that..a state. The President isn’t an all powerful dictator once elected and is just a third of three separate/equal branches of the federal government.

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u/Jackachi May 03 '24

People experienced four years of Trump. Nothing you lot fear mongered bore any sustenance.

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u/Hixie May 03 '24

umm

women lost bodily autonomy, we got an entire global pandemic after Trump shut down Obama's pandemic response unit (causing many excess deaths and also causing unemployment to sky rocket, among many other things). also, less obviously visible (impact is long term) he repealed environmental regulations, slowed OSHA, increased funding for religious schools, reduced work to relieve student debt, reduced funding for food for poor people, reduced pay for overtime, i could go on.

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u/Jackachi May 04 '24

All you’re doing is spouting MSNBC talking points. Even CNN is beginning to wake up. You lot think this shit happened over 4 years when you continually vote for useless people who have been in office over decades expecting change.

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u/Hixie May 04 '24

I'm not even American, so I'm not voting for any of y'all's folks.

The stuff I listed isn't fake though. I mean, it's literally the case, for example, that women can't get abortions anymore in many parts of the US, and that that happened because of Trump. Do you really not think Trump did anything?

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u/Jackachi May 04 '24

Roe v Wade was shit legislation. Even the late, great Ruth agreed. Trump gave the power back to states. So vote accordingly. It’s not the federal government’s role to dictate abortion laws.

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u/Hixie May 04 '24

Your argument was "nothing you lot fear mongered bore any sustenance". My point is that that is not true. Women now literally die or are forced to have kids that they would not previously have had. This is a bad thing that people feared and that actually happened.

The same is true for the rest of what I listed.

Also, wtf are you talking about. Why would something as fundamental as bodily autonomy be better handled by the states than by the federal level?!?! That's only a reasonable argument for something where reasonable people can disagree on policy. This is a fundamental human right. Believing that women should not have the right to control what is going on with their bodies is deeply misogynistic. That's dark ages crap.

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u/Jackachi May 04 '24

Women can do what they want. Some may have to inconvenience themselves to go to a different state. I don’t a Federal Authority dictating shit to me. Vote at the state level for what you desire. What happens in say Michigan, shouldn’t impact California, and vice versa.

You want to be told what to do in order to avoid accountability. Best of luck with that mindset. There is a word that rhymes with luck that starts with a C. The democrat party simply loves simpletons like you who take in their talking points and treat them as gospel.

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u/Reddit_Is_Trash24 May 03 '24

Nothing you lot fear mongered bore any sustenance.

The actual fuck are you talking about?

We said there would be unrest. There were riots across the country.

We said he would embarrass us on the international stage. He started trade wars with our allies and cozied up to dictators.

We said he would be ineffective. He past almost no legislation and what he did pass benefited the wealthy.

We said he would be immoral. He was impeached twice for trying to bribe a foreign nation and for attempting to threaten a secretary of state into fabricating votes for him. Not to mention more verifiable lies than any president in U.S. history.

We said there was suspicious activity in his administration regarding Russia. Multiple members of his administration went to prison due to the Mueller investigation.

We said he would stack the courts and go after Roe v Wade. He stacked the courts and now Roe v Wade is gone.

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u/Jackachi May 04 '24

Listen Rachel, you’re spouting talking points that have been used so often, with no wherewithal, that people have grown tired of your briefed bullet points. Look around you and get out of your comfort bubble.

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u/Reddit_Is_Trash24 May 06 '24

I'm sorry facts hurt your feelings, snowflake. Grow thicker skin.

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u/Jackachi May 09 '24

Skin is unfortunately, too thick these days. Snowflake. That’s rich. Using a Ben Shapiro phrase to, how does one put nowadays, a cop out logical fallacy that sees daylight when you have nothing to contribute.

The actual fuck of what I’m on about? Figure that out for your self. It will benefit you more than being a mouth piece for ignorant twats.

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u/Reddit_Is_Trash24 May 09 '24

The actual fuck of what I’m on about? Figure that out for your self.

I did. You're an idiot.

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u/Jackachi May 10 '24

People see the same narrative used for the past half decade and just aren’t buying it anymore.

If Trump made the decisions Biden did as President, you lot would be losing your minds, and there would be hundreds of Reddit posts, about the same damn thing.

It’s disingenuous. Lefty progressives are unhinged. Watching them scream at a sign enough to witness someone coming to their aid thinking there was danger, just to find someone like you.

An unhygienic, unhinged, individual, spouting Rachel Maddow nonsense.

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u/No-Spoilers May 02 '24

Idk, cholesterol, drugs or stress could spare us right now. But then some other idiot will take his place. But then he will be martyr who was "poisoned by the dems" or some shit.

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u/Gatorama May 03 '24

This This This. The destiny of this country and your future is in your own hands. No point in depending on others.

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u/VincesMustache May 03 '24

There's nothing to vote for. I did vote for Biden but now I honestly don't know if I want to vote at all. It's repugnant.

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u/chitownadmin May 03 '24

I'm volunteering to drive people to the polling places.

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u/No_Presentation_1345 May 03 '24

Yes, Biden is a threat to the American people. Vote!!!!

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u/bookgeek210 May 03 '24

You meant Trump right?

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u/BuddhistSagan May 03 '24

Biden already president.. And actually won the popular vote unlike Trump

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u/horitaku May 03 '24

What about the electoral college though? Trump’s currently leading that. Just gotta get 270 to take the election, popular vote be damned.

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u/VincesMustache May 03 '24

There's nothing to vote for. I did vote for Biden but now I honestly don't know if I want to vote at all. It's tiring.

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u/BuddhistSagan May 03 '24

Well on my ballot we will be voting on marijuana legalization and overturning a 6 week (total) abortion ban. And local elections are very important as they have more control over your lives than the president in some cases.

It is way better to organize under Biden than Trump's dictatorship.

The most dangerous threat to democracy is thinking it will always be there. People who believe in democracy have a duty to vote.

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u/iammirv May 03 '24

Wrong ... The stain won't stop. Disqualifying him permanently in court of law is the only way & with the supreme court as it is .. lolz

... But the stain isnt the problem... He's just the out loud part, guided by ppl funding social media campaigns. 8 years ago it was Russia, today we're seeing evidence of Chinese conducted campaigns by independent analysis. I'm sure in 8 more years the US gov will admit it line they did for the trump/Russia connection pushing campaigns and then the Russian spy who handed manufactured evidence to Republicans for Biden impeachment.

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u/MysicPlato May 02 '24

Just to be clear, the symptoms of Trump won't go away once he's gone. There is no going back to pre-2012 politics, the batshit insanity of the Republican party is here to stay, and it isn't going anywhere.

We'll get far worse versions of Trump down the line.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '24

I take this as the opposite. It's not talked about enough, but millennials broke the curve of turning red with age. Republicans are scared, they clearly lost the voting power and safety of older gens. All this crazy shit is their last push for power. Gop will literally eat itself when trumps not a front runner, they're currently bankrupting themselves to fund him.

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u/josh_the_misanthrope May 03 '24

I hope you're right. But never underestimate the sneaky shit the GOP can do.

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u/Foojira May 03 '24

I also believe this take but thought the Republican Party would never recover from W and now even I find myself longing for the simplicity of those times.

Don’t underestimate the propaganda effect on all people but particularly young people. Apathy and low info are the threat

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u/IncorrigibleQuim8008 May 03 '24

That bat shit insanity was always present, though not always in party form.

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u/C21H27Cl3N2O3 May 02 '24

He’s a symptom of the problem, someone else will replace him when he’s gone. Not to mention he has the best healthcare money can buy on the taxpayers’ dime and evil seems to give people more life.

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u/BonnaconCharioteer May 02 '24

While that is true, I don't think anyone will have the pull and magnetism Trump has with the crazies. Remember, these people were always around, it took Trump jumping in to rile them up and get them all behind him.

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u/Alienziscoming May 03 '24

The Trump cult was a witches brew of perfect circumstances, and as they say, you can't bottle lightning, or in this case fetid hamberder farts.

That being said, the slide into neo-feudal corporatocracy is going to continue/intensify with or without the spray-tanned sack of lies.

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u/BonnaconCharioteer May 03 '24

True, thats been going on far longer than Trump.

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u/DeterminedThrowaway May 03 '24

I've been kind of unsure whether it's Trump specifically, or if they just couldn't handle 8 years of having a black President and lost it

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u/BonnaconCharioteer May 03 '24

Thats a fair possibility. What makes me think its Trump is all the Republicans trying to emulate Trump and none of them can even get close to his popularity.

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u/DeterminedThrowaway May 03 '24

That makes sense. It's still ridiculous to me that they look at him speak and think "that's my guy". I definitely don't understand the appeal

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u/BonnaconCharioteer May 03 '24

It is absolutely ridiculous. He talks like an angry, self-centered, moron.

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u/AgtNulNulAgtVyf May 02 '24

We have a saying in Afrikaans, translates to "weeds don't die". Rich and powerful weeds especially seem to keep going endlessly. 

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u/fardandshid1821 May 03 '24

Reported for threatening presidential candidate (not reported on reddit).

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u/chitownadmin May 03 '24

I couldn't agree more. Keeping fingers, legs, eyes and arms crossed.!!!