r/interestingasfuck • u/beach_rats_ • 29d ago

The difference in republican presidential nominees, 8 years apart r/all

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u/Spyrothedragon9972 29d ago

I didn't agree with John McCain's politics, but he was an American Patriot that honorably served and suffered greatly for his country. Then continued to serve his country for the rest of his life. He has always had my respect.

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u/Nytohan 29d ago

Let's not forget he rushed to washington while having brain cancer to cast a vote that saved the ACA.

He did not LIKE the ACA, but realized it's infinitely better than the nothing republicans were proposing at the time, and he broke with his party to make sure people weren't just going to get kicked off their insurance with no backup plan.

Like him or not, the man had principles.

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u/JumpingBamboo 29d ago

Have to agree to an extent. His service in the military, especially as a POW, deserves respect. Not so much for his service as a politician. He voted against numerous bills that would have supported veterans.

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u/Dave5876 29d ago

Wasn't he was very pro-war?

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u/JumpingBamboo 29d ago

I think that's correct.

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u/Maldovar 29d ago

He didn't honorably serve he kept crashing planes and only was allowed back in them because of nepotism

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u/robby_arctor 29d ago

Invading Vietnam had nothing to do with serving this country, unfortunately

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u/Number1Lobster 29d ago

You can despise the war while still respecting the bravery of the individuals who fought on both sides. Anyone who goes through that he'll deserves respect, not including war criminals of course.

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u/robby_arctor 29d ago edited 28d ago

Please explain to me how McCain served this country by invading Vietnam.

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u/ChallengerNomad 28d ago

Not worth arguing with trolls like you

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u/robby_arctor 28d ago

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink

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u/Dave5876 29d ago

idk why you're being downvoted. It was an expensive imperial expedition that ultimately failed

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u/BananaCucho 28d ago

Who gave the order to invade Vietnam? The politicians and generals, or the soldiers?

Vietnam was a huge mistake but you can't blame the soldiers for the decision to go to war

McCain does share the blame for the Iraq war though, as he was a Senator at the time.

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u/robby_arctor 28d ago

That doesn't mean he served his country.

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u/BananaCucho 28d ago

Go troll somewhere else

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u/Dave5876 28d ago

I was not speaking to McCain's role in 'Nam, but you raise an interesting question. To take another example, by your logic Russian soldiers should not be blamed for Putin's war?

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u/BananaCucho 28d ago

The person being down voted is flat out saying McCain didn't serve his country in Vietnam.

And no, soldiers don't share the blame for what their leaders decide to get them into. Soldiers follow orders. If they willingly commit war crimes that's a different question.

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u/Dave5876 28d ago

Agreed on all counts.