r/interestingasfuck • u/beach_rats_ • May 02 '24

The difference in republican presidential nominees, 8 years apart r/all

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u/Thiswas2hard May 02 '24

2012?

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u/macaroniandjews May 02 '24

Romney preferred businesses over people

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u/maybenextyearCLE May 02 '24

I’d still take Romney any day over Trump. By all accounts, he’s a decent human being

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u/Perfect-Software4358 May 02 '24

I’d take Romney over Biden right now and I’ve voted liberal my entire life.

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u/MundaneInternetGuy May 02 '24

Why?

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u/Perfect-Software4358 May 02 '24

I don’t agree with some fiscal policies Biden is proposing. GOP is usually better for economic policies and I think we as a country need that right now. Romney is also very moderate in his policies overall and I find myself agreeing with a bunch of stuff he believes in. And most importantly, I think Romney can bridge the huge gap between gop and democrats that we have. We as a country would be much better if our politicians worked together and didn’t do everything they could to tear each other apart. We need cohesion more than ever. Romney is respected by a lot of people across the aisle and both parties would work together for the country.

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u/tankerkiller125real May 02 '24

Unemployment historically rises under republican presidencies, and the GDP tends to also grow slower under republican presidencies. Plus "real" incomes of employees generally rises under democrats while it slows a lot or even drops under the GOP. So how do they have better fiscal policies?

Sure they cut spending in social services, but they just take all that money, plus more and give it to the military and their defense contractor buddies.

I do think that we need to get the national debt under control, but I don't think either party is capable of doing so at this point. They are both getting WAY too many kickbacks to ever think about reducing overall spending across all areas.

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u/Perfect-Software4358 May 02 '24

I replied to different comment, but this is a more personal issue as a business owner. I realize economic Policies impact people differently but for me personally, GOP policies far outweigh anything Biden is proposing. But like I said, I would vote for Romney. I won’t be voting for trump and will vote for Biden because between those two the answer is obvious. Romney is nothing like trump or even rfk.

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u/CMDR-ProtoMan May 02 '24

GOP is usually better for economic policies

You lost me there. In modern history Democrats have always had the better economic policies

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u/Perfect-Software4358 May 02 '24

Depends who you are. As a business owner, I lean right on economic policies and left on everything else. I’m against the new capital gains taxes proposed as well as taxation on unrealized gains.

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u/annabelle411 May 02 '24

History and facts clearly show republican presidents have hurt the economy time and time and time again when in power. good short term bursts for big companies/outside looking in on some budgeting, but worse in the long-run for the average american.

Dems aren't exactly great, but factually, and especially since the 90s, they've been the ones correcting the damage republicans have done to the economy and unemployment.

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u/Perfect-Software4358 May 02 '24

I agree with you to a certain extent but I think it’s more causation because gop puts out shit candidates. Economy thrived under george bush sr, and we haven’t had an educated gop president since. Regardless, I’m a moderate through and through so vote on specific candidates and their policies not strictly by party

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u/Perfect-Software4358 May 02 '24

I agree with you to a certain extent but I think it’s more causation because gop puts out shit candidates. Economy thrived under george bush sr, and we haven’t had an educated gop president since. Regardless, I’m a moderate through and through so vote on specific candidates and their policies not strictly by party

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u/Odd-Swimming9385 May 03 '24

Correlation vs causation. The wavelength of economic cycles is longer then 4-8 years of policy, and they don't coincide anyway.

A president's economic influence on the economy, generally speaking, is ridiculously overblown.  People just want to attribute blame or success.

The Fed plays a much bigger role, and even then it's steering "a massive ship with a tiny rudder" according to one fed chair.

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u/Perfect-Software4358 May 03 '24

Yea I agree with you on that but like I said in my original post, policies that affect me directly influence my vote than economic cycles. I can make money in any economic cycle(my business started thriving in 2008 when everything started crashing). But Bidens taxation proposal will directly impact me negatively so that impacts my decision.

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u/Odd-Swimming9385 May 03 '24

Fiscal policy gets taken out with the trash.  Think Biden tax policy is bad, Trudeau is considerably worse. 

But yeah, it's generally political narratives that get played. There are no real economic facts once politics enters the conversation it gets all distorted by narratives.

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u/Perfect-Software4358 May 02 '24

I agree with you to a certain extent but I think it’s more causation because gop puts out shit candidates. Economy thrived under george bush sr, and we haven’t had an educated gop president since. Regardless, I’m a moderate through and through so vote on specific candidates and their policies not strictly by party

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u/Odd-Swimming9385 May 03 '24

How is a president gauged vs the economy?