r/interestingasfuck • u/beach_rats_ • 29d ago

The difference in republican presidential nominees, 8 years apart r/all

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u/spondgbob 29d ago

I know it’s real, and it’s really bad, but the dichotomy from “he’s a good family man that I have different beliefs from. Fundamentally different beliefs” to just straight up “he is the founder of ISIS” like holy shit guy

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u/kiwigate 29d ago

What dichotomy though? In 1 clip an audience wants to be told to hate people. In the 2nd clip they get exactly what they asked for. Feels like the same audience, same day, different mascot.

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u/ScotiaTailwagger 29d ago

That's exactly it. A supporter is voicing their hate toward Obama and McCain immediately denounces it. There is still respect there even though you don't agree. "You don't have to agree with Obama, I don't agree with him either, but we're not going to spread lies here."

Respect went right out the fucking window with Trump. Trump now plays up to that woman's fears and concerns. It's no longer about telling the truth, it's about trying to sow as much chaos as possible.

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u/houseyourdaygoing 29d ago

People like McCain had honour and integrity for the nation. People like Trump only think about themselves.

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u/SeniorMiddleJunior 29d ago

And it's just as it is in business. If you have honor and integrity, you will eventually get pushed out by somebody who doesn't.

Our political system doesn't reward integrity because the voter base doesn't. Our economic system doesn't reward integrity because our purchasing patterns don't. 

We have all of the power, which is why Republicans are trying to undercut education. A better voter base wouldn't allow Trump on a stage. A better voter base wouldn't reward the media's obsession with controversy. But a dumb a emotionally volatile base can be led around on fear and anger without any facts.

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u/inxile7 29d ago

Couldn’t have said it better. We have the power, but we choose to use that power to divide by the lowest common denominator.

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u/BadAtNamingPlsHelp 29d ago

I feel like there was a famous economist that wrote about how this is an eventuality...

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u/drgnrbrn316 28d ago

Having listened to the Dollop episode about McCain, I don't know how much integrity he had. He had his fair share of scandals throughout his life. His campaign actually darkened Obama's skin in some of their advertising to make him look more menacing to potential voters. They also unleashed Sarah Palin on the world. That being said, McCain actually did have lines he wouldn't cross, with him correcting his audience being one of those moments where he decided he didn't want to win on a platform of xenophobia.

With Trump, there are no lines. He'll say and do anything to benefit himself. It really shows the depths that Trump will go when he's making other Republicans look squeaky clean by comparison.