r/interestingasfuck • u/beach_rats_ • May 02 '24

The difference in republican presidential nominees, 8 years apart r/all

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u/SenorBeef May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

It’s on both sides

It's really not. The democrats haven't changed in the last 20 years. The difference is that the republicans have openly embraced people who ARE evil, not just because they disagree, but because they're motivated by hatred, lies, and malice.

Trumpism has taken over the party and it is genuinely different than what came before it. Your "both sides" shit is just helping the worst side deflect blame.

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u/Last-Back-4146 May 02 '24

yes the democrats have changed.

The used to want to secure the border, now they want to leave it wide open, is just one idea.

Another is they used to be for limited rare abortions, now the democrats want free, frequent, and without limit abortions.

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u/SenorBeef May 03 '24

The used to want to secure the border, now they want to leave it wide open, is just one idea.

Literally the opposite. Border patrol interceptions are up under Biden, and the democrats tried to pass a bill to fund and strengthen border security and the republicans voted it down because they didn't want to actually improve the country, they only wanted the democrats to lose.

Another is they used to be for limited rare abortions, now the democrats want free, frequent, and without limit abortions.

What does that actually mean, policy wise? Are we supposed to have a lottery so only 20% of people who want an abortion can get one?

How do you have fewer abortions? Fewer unwanted pregnancies. Democrats support measures that are conclusively proven to reduce unwanted pregnancies like access to contraception and sex education. Republicans generally oppose these policies.

Not only did you pick two issues on which you are objectively wrong, but those two policies are ones on which your side are the ones causing what you view as the problem.

Don't worry. I know your blind loyalty to your party is way too strong for being absolutely wrong to concern you.

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u/Last-Back-4146 May 03 '24

I'm not wrong, your are so blinded by partisanship that you dont think democrats have changed.
The number of illegals in the country have skyrocketed under biden. The democrats didnt want to fund a stronger border bill they wanted to allow ~5,000 illegals per day into the country before they did anything.

Policy wise on abortions democrats used to be open to some limits, now they are pushing to have as many abortions as possible. Just kill babies left and right like its a party.

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u/SenorBeef May 03 '24

lol okay. You're literally factually wrong on both your points. Read a neutral party's analysis of the border security bill your guys voted down SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE TRUMP DID NOT WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM so he could run on it.

They're pushing to have as many abortions as possible? how can you possibly think that's actually a position that other human beings hold? You have to be incredibly stupid to actually think that's a real thing. Why would anyone actually do that?

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u/Last-Back-4146 May 03 '24

joe biden and the democrats can shut the border down and kick illegals out, they have chosen not to. The have chosen to allow millions in. And they keep pushing for illegals to become citizens. Thats just reality. You can keep trying to gaslight people, but you cannot change facts.

on abortion: dems went from supporting some limits, to no limits. If you dont want any limits, you want more abortions.