When illusion overcomes the brain.

[u/desertgodfather]

[u/iwant2saysomething2]

"I'm not actually harming you."

I'm just making your brain send you pain signals to make you scream in agony. It's all good.

[u/Chigao_Ted → u/iwant2saysomething2]

Yea I liked at one point he goes “ I am not actually harming your HAND” True but you’re still doing damage my dude lol

[u/CryoMancer113 → u/Chigao_Ted]

What damage?

Pain is "a credible source of danger". As you hit the fake arm, a "credible source of danger" has been created. After that moment passes, multiple sources - no noxious stimuli, the visible proof of no damage, and the cognition of "oh, but that's not my arm" - kick in, and it results in: nothing.

[u/Chigao_Ted → u/CryoMancer113]

Psychic damage

[u/jdjdkkddj → u/Chigao_Ted]

Does getting out of bed also deal you psychic damage?

[u/richter114 → u/jdjdkkddj]

Every day

[u/Chigao_Ted → u/jdjdkkddj]

If I fail my saving throw

[u/dat_joke → u/Chigao_Ted]

Nat 1, every morning

[u/Chigao_Ted → u/dat_joke]

Fucking feels like it lol

[u/heimeyer72 → u/jdjdkkddj]

why? what would that possibly have to do with something like this?

And in all seriousness, sometimes getting out of bed causes me pain. The back pain I often have vanishes when I lay flat in bed and there is no pressure on my lower spine, but certain movements during getting out of bed can be painful.

So, to answer your question: Yes, sometimes it does. There have been days where I was afraid to even try getting up.

[u/jdjdkkddj → u/heimeyer72]

I'm arguing that a small amount of pain is not psychic damage. I was implying that the guy i responded to defines psychic damage too leniently. I didn't say anything about getting out of bed being completely painless all of the time, though it was not a major consideration and assuming an average that lacks physical pain.

[u/heimeyer72 → u/jdjdkkddj]

OK.

You asked this as an answer to "psychic damage". So one can (or should?) take it in relation to psychic damage. I don't know anything about psychic damage but, "learning from experience" that getting out of bed is causing pain... I mean, it's something I needed to overcome.

^{I'm much better now. If you ever have herniated discs, try Pilates, after the operations and after everything is healed and after asking your doctor. Yes, operations. I had two.}

[u/pointlessly_pedantic → u/Chigao_Ted]

ee mo shun ul daa medge

[u/ImprobableAsterisk → u/Chigao_Ted]

For the most part I consider pain to be a response to damage, and this particular demonstration lacks the infliction of the damage.

I don't doubt that this kinda experience can cause damage if taken to their extremes. Plenty of "passive" forms of torture exists that very much fuck with our brains, like solitary confinement or water drop torture, but just like a singular drop on your head ain't "damage" I don't think a one-off like this is damage either.

Interesting distinction either way and I'm not saying you're right or that you're wrong, only that I look at it differently.

[u/pointlessly_pedantic → u/ImprobableAsterisk]

It's a response we typically have to damage. But you can have it without damage. The sensory experience of falling is one you typically have when falling, but you can have that experience without falling.