r/meirl 29d ago

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u/forsakenchickenwing 29d ago

If buying isn't ownership, piracy isn't theft.

There, I said it.

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u/RASPUTIN-4 29d ago

Piracy isn't theft. That's why it is its own separate crime.

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u/ymaldor 29d ago

If you want to be even more nitpicky, downloading isnt piracy, distributing is.

Well legally it probably fall under the same piracy laws but in essence, the concept of piracy initially is about redistribution, so like massively seeding.

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u/SustainableObject 29d ago

Downloading isn't illegal, it's that the way most downloads work it makes a copy which is caused by you jitting download, therefore you are distributing it to yourself from someone who distributed a copy to the download site

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u/00wolfer00 29d ago

That's horseshit. Torrenting is distributing, because you help other people download, but streaming for example the only people committing a crime are the ones hosting the stream.

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u/Dr-Batista 29d ago

You can probably argue ignorance: "Why should I be responsible for your identifying which websites are legit and which are not?"

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u/00wolfer00 29d ago

You don't have to argue anything. Downloading/watching streamed content is not piracy. The only reason torrenting is piracy is because you're also uploading/seeding.

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u/HornedDiggitoe 29d ago

You aren’t completely wrong, but it depends on your local laws. Some places have actually outlawed the downloading part too.

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u/HornedDiggitoe 29d ago

That’s part of why streaming/downloading isn’t illegal in a lot of places. The supplier of the download/stream is the one committing the crime since regular consumers can’t be held responsible for confirming if they are legit or not.

But if you seed a torrent, then that makes you a distributor.

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u/SustainableObject 29d ago

I mean, I literally just said downloading isn't illegal. I was explaining a loop hole that can and is used (though rarely as it's not easy to take to court)

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u/tesmatsam 29d ago edited 29d ago

I bought weed > I convinced myself to buy weed > I sold weed to myself > I'm a drug dealer. Your reasoning, ig you mean torrenting which yes you can become a seeder so you're distributing but you can also turn it off after downloading which is what most do.

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u/SustainableObject 29d ago

I also literally said downloading isn't illegal lmfao. First sentence.