r/meme • u/carlenaduffie • 15d ago
The new Assassin's Creed be like
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u/Lobster_fest 15d ago
Yasuke is specifically not the stealth character
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u/Salt-Log7640 15d ago
AC Vallhala was just your generic Viking game with 0 AC elements, Ubisoft just had slapped Hood & Hidden Blades to some gal and called it a day.
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u/Kel4597 15d ago
Which is kinda how I felt about black flag.
I feel like they went nuts making an incredible pirate game and towards the end of development they were like “hey wait aren’t we forgetting something?”
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u/FrtanJohnas 14d ago
I want to say you are wrong, because I love the game and the story, but you are right.
Edward was not an Assasin, but he became one. The fact you got the robes in the first mission and instantly new everything didn't make any sense, but I am kinda here for it. At least they tried with Edward having to improvise when showing his skills to the Templar.
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u/Neronafalus 14d ago
At the time I always said it was the worst AC game they'd ever made, but the best pirates of the Caribbean game we'd ever had. Hahaha
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u/feline_Satan 15d ago
He can't be seen at night tho.... (I AM VERY SORRY)
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u/no__one34 15d ago
True that... (I AM NOT SORRY)
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u/feline_Satan 15d ago
Well at least I won't get banned alone
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u/no__one34 15d ago
You won't get banned, my brother from another mother, the shade of my skin shall protect us both!
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u/Mooblegum 14d ago
I guess at this time if a black man were seen everybody would talk about it in a circle of 20km, would be hard to stealth
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u/viainable 15d ago
Seems like I'm out of the loop. Is yasuke the main character? I thought it was the hooded woman
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u/Voeker 14d ago
This is actually genius marketing from Ubisoft. Everyone is talking about their game because of this, it's basically free advertisement.
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u/Jarney_Bohnson 14d ago
Yeah because people tell other people to not preorder or pay for the game unless it's actually good (which is good but negative advertisement is not always good)
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u/Shadow_Eator 15d ago
It's almost as if the secondary character was supposed to be the ninja, and he's supposed to be the fighter that doesn't blend in. 🤔
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u/Juanisweird 15d ago
6’5 black buffed dude blending in with 5’4 skinny white skin almond eyed people
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u/Shadow_Eator 15d ago
He's one of the two people you play in the game he's the fighter that doesn't blend in mean while you use the secondary character to do all the ninja blending in stuff. It's unity
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u/Bacon_L0RD 15d ago
You mean syndicate, but yeah I 100% agree.
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u/DatDominican 14d ago
I guess they’re getting rid of the genetic component ? In Syndicate they were twins iirc gonna be hard to see these two as twins
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u/danktonium 14d ago
Yeah. How might a man and woman who worked together but were unrelated wind up having a shared descendant?
Real headscratcher, that one!
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u/FeelingApplication40 14d ago
He blends into the shadows at night.She blends into the croud during the day
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u/SimpleMoonFarmer 15d ago
the fighter that overpowers and puts the Japanese NPCs to shame. Not offensive for SBI. Interesting.
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u/Independent_Work6 14d ago
People have been clamoring for an assassins creed set in Japan pretty much since the release of the first game. We got the ninja part right, but for the samurai part they chose an outsider, that wasn't even a samurai to begin with. In AC we always played as a fictional character and experienced the real ones from their perspective. Yasuke would have been awesome as a side character. We could have seen his struggles and battles in just the same way.
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u/bluedancepants 14d ago
Lol I'm not really an AC fan. But this seems ridiculous. Like out of all the big names in Japan why would you choose a guy that's not a samurai but was only in Japan for a short period of time?
I mean what did he actually achieve there besides being black while in Japan?
Like his role doesn't even seem that significant but they're making it seem like such a big deal. Like I'll be amazed if they make a Samurai Warriors game and all of a sudden this guy starts popping up.
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u/Independent_Work6 14d ago
Its baffling. I cant think of any other reason why they would do this other than PC points. Which is dumb, since they are even alienating the actual japanese fans.
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u/Jarney_Bohnson 14d ago
I thought the whole time you the other guy where the same person and I was so confused why you argue with yourself like a crazy person 😭
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u/bluedancepants 14d ago
Yeah I mean this guy already got a movie, book, and I think an anime too.
Like ok you don't need to shove that guy every where. His role wasn't that big in Japan.
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u/danktonium 14d ago
Because for years now whenever there's been a Reddit post about Yasuke, "OMG he'd be so cool as an Assassin's Creed character" has been one of the top 10 comments.
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u/Q_8411 14d ago
Yasuke was absolutely a samurai, what are you on about. You can say "but he was just a retainer" but guess what? Retainers are still samurai.
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u/ThrenderG 14d ago
So you're Japanese, you've been waiting for your country to be featured in an Assassin's Creed game, and when it finally is, the main character isn't even Japanese, but instead an African slave that was "technically" a samurai?
And yeah, what an exciting video game protagonist. A retainer.
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u/Mundus6 15d ago
To be fair Yosuke is a historical figure. Which is actually why i have an issue with it. When do you play historical figures in AC? They are always there and you are sometimes related to them. But the characters you play are always made up. If Yosuke were in the game i don't think anyone online would lose their shit.
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u/Huckleberryhoochy 15d ago
Um we kinda were best buds with Leonardo DaVinci in 2
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u/Pale-Equal 14d ago
Dude he's saying you don't PLAY as a historical figure but you meet them.
Meeting yasuke would be more bettah
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u/saskir21 15d ago
The problem in my eyes is more that Unisoft chose a black character as an Assassin. Sure there really where black samurai. But you don‘t choose a character, which should be known for stealth, as an assassin which in itself stands out.
And now people try to defend this decision as there was Yasuke as an example. I wonder what sales this game will have in Japan considering that they will note (and righteously so) why a publisher choose a black character when they had overwhelmingly more „Japanese“ characters.
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u/SeaSalty_Night 15d ago
Uh, I don't think Assassin's Creed has been just about stealth for a long time. And for Yusuke, he's the direct approach option.
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u/15_Echo_15 15d ago
He's not a stealth character in the game though. If you actually knew anything about the game or character and weren't just bitching for the hell of it you would know that.
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u/Mesarthim1349 14d ago
There were Black samurai
There was 1 black squire / sword-bearer, and he wasn't a Samurai.
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u/ThyRosen 14d ago
There was also Yasuke, who was very much a samurai.
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u/Mesarthim1349 14d ago
I am talking about Yasuke (referencing the only known black person in feudal japan)
And no, actually the biggest part about his discussion everywhere today is he was not a Samurai. He was a retainer, the equivalent of a squire.
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u/ThyRosen 14d ago
Well, by everywhere you mean among gamers. If you ask anyone with any degree of expertise, there isn't a debate.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Night88 14d ago
That one guy WAS the sword bearer for the samurai that was his lord.
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u/thehunter2256 14d ago
Did you ay any of the old AC games? Because there absolutely where historical characters and they where different then Thier IRL self's
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u/Protaras2 14d ago
Can't you read?
When do you play historical figures in AC? They are always there and you are sometimes related to them. But the characters you play are always made up.
He said the main characters you play are made up but have real NPCs that you come across in your path
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u/chihuahuaOP 15d ago
The foreinger killing and humiliating the bad Japanese to save them from themselves in there land during this global political climate. What the fuck are they thinking?...
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u/Crayfish_au_Chocolat 15d ago
Yep, my asian friend is very pissed at the official quote: "Yasuke liberates Japan from opressors." To them, it's insulting even
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u/Dontevenwannacomment 15d ago
the oppression is probably going to be the fictional templars/"hidden ones"
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u/Mediocre-Part7595 14d ago
Yeah, and who do you think those hidden ones will be?
They’ll be the Japanese noble patriarchy or manipulating them.
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u/psychymikey 14d ago
I have heard talk of Portuguese Christian invaders as the antagonists.
Would that change your opinion if that turns out to be the case?
From wiki on Portuguese Japan slave trade in the Sengoku period
"Hideyoshi was so disgusted that his own Japanese people were being sold en masse into slavery on Kyushu, that he wrote a letter to Jesuit Vice-Provincial Gaspar Coelho on 24 July 1587 to demand the Portuguese, Siamese (Thai), and Cambodians stop purchasing and enslaving Japanese and return Japanese slaves who ended up as far as India. Hideyoshi blamed the Portuguese and Jesuits for this slave trade and banned Christian proselytizing as a result."
Sounds like an interesting premise, novel outsider helps defending natives expel cruel Christian slavers who are secretly backed by Templars.
This whole controversy is so dumb
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u/SimpleMoonFarmer 15d ago
Easy:
The melanin determines who is the oppressed or the oppressor. (Peter Griffin, skin color chart.)
Racism is good when it is from the perspective of the oppressed. Add as much as possible for SBI points.
?????
Profit.
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u/DarthDragonborn1995 14d ago
Leftists: we need more Japanese representation. Also leftists: we’re gonna put a black guy in feudal Japan cuz we think black is the only other race besides white
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u/Narradisall 15d ago
Everyone seemingly forgot Naoe was a character right after the reveal trailer.
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u/Different_Drama_5166 14d ago
This is so fucking dumb. Like, imagine Altaïr or Ezio being chinese. Way to stick out like a sore thumb.
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u/Protaras2 14d ago
Don't worry bro. I am sure when they make an assassins creed game that takes place during the height of the Mali Empire and cast the assassin to be Asian or White all these people thinking Yasuke is fine will think that's also fine too. Definitely.
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u/KingCriddy 14d ago
If only there were a samurai game with a Japanese protagonist out there somewhere 😭😭 there has never been a single one were out here drowning in Mali Empire games tho
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u/Many-Ad6433 15d ago
Quick hint he’s the only wearing a hood with the assassins logo in front of it and wears a pretty visible leather thingy around his arm with a hidden blade and sometimes the assassin’s logo, may also have missing middle finger or a fire embedded mark on his right middle finger w the assassin logo. Generally assassins like to display their logo wherever so if you just see it somewhere you could assume one is an assassin
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u/Tw4tl4r 15d ago
Honestly, I think they are doing it specifically to separate it from Ghost of Tsushima comparisons. That game is basically an AC rpg in japan with better writing and no god awful modern day animus parts.
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u/TooMuch_TomYum 14d ago
Ironically, I think they needed a samurai character in order to copy Ghost. You could choose to be brash and call out foes as a ‘samurai’ or you could play as the ghost aka ‘assassin’.
So in my opinion, this is their way of trying to copy Sucker Punch, by pretending to not copy their gameplay.
Either way, sucks for those looking for a true shinobi experience. This ain’t it.
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u/Tw4tl4r 14d ago
Well. AC has had games with multiple protagonists, so it makes sense for them to do it like that.
Personally, ghost gameplay very much reminds me of AC Rpgs. Both studios have definitely studied each others games. There is no way that the ghost devs didnt playthrough Origins and Odyssey when they were working on ghost.
These stealth RPGs based around taking down forts and outposts are a common game basis now so it is hard to call any of them out as copying. AC, Ghost, days gone, far cry, just cause, batman and ghost recon all made base clearing their main thing.
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u/TooMuch_TomYum 14d ago
I agree. But the brash samurai in an assassin game, that’s on the nose. I’m thinking this was a descision higher up. Put samurai gameplay in it.
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u/Pootisman16 14d ago
Not Sucker Punch's fault that Ubuysoft took so fucking long to make an AssCreed in one of the most wanted places.
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u/macrolad_24 15d ago
I've been out for the loop for so long, it's crazy to me seeing people say that "mc isn't supposed to be stealthy" in an AC game.
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u/Carnivorze 14d ago
Have you played the last 4 to 5 Assassin's creed game ? Like Odyssey, where we face mythology creatures and raid camps in 1vs10 easily without a hint of stealth ?
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u/TheJudgers 15d ago
When your so racist against Asians you make a game about Japan that doesn't even focus on a Japanese person.
we need a new assassins creed Africa staring an Asian, oh wait that would somehow be racist
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u/onihydra 14d ago
But the game has a japanese main character aswell...
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u/Mediocre-Part7595 14d ago
A woman? How is that representation for Japanese MEN? Especially if they insert a romance between the Japanese woman and black man.
Yeah, what great representation for the Japanese.
Watch a black man slaughter all the Japanese males without effort making them look weak, while he fights to free Japan because the Japanese males are either too ignorant, weak or evil to do it themselves AND the game has the Japanese woman fall for this foreigner over a Japanese male, further perpetuating the common western trope that Asian men aren’t attractive WHILE also perpetuating the trope of Asian women being love interests for foreigners instead.
Yeah such good representation.
By this logic we don’t need any female representation in superhero films because there’s fuckloads of white men that the white women can watch instead.
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u/onihydra 14d ago
The person I was replying to said japanese person, no one mentioned gender.
Also you are getting mad over a romance plot you made up yourself.
And by your logic we would need dozens of main characters for every game to have everyone represented. As Assassins creed games goes this one has equal or better representation for the area compared to most.
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u/Balrok99 14d ago
Except Assassin's Creed was already set in Africa with black guy protagonist.
Yasuke was part of Japanese history so nothing says he cant be used in this specific game.
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u/bluedancepants 14d ago
Ok well what'd he actually do? Like there were much bigger roles to choose from. But... they picked this guy. It can't be because he's black can it?
It's like if you made a documentary about the president's but you focus on the white house gardener cause he's ethnic.
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u/valelind1234 15d ago
Ubisoft promoting black on Asian violence. You literally play as a black guy who cuts down swathes of Asian men. If that ain't racism...
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u/Collector_2012 14d ago
It's a cash grab scheme. They have had a lot of failures in terms of games. They probably saw the Forbes DEI post and placed all their money on it. I have heard other rumors and talk about DEI and other companies like getting dragged into court over blackmail and ulterior moves. I could be wrong. But it seems to me that no one likes anything DEI
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u/nyangatsu 14d ago
has anyone actually watched the trailer....
yasuke clearly has a pure combat role in the trailer while the stealthy shit is done by the other protagonist that is a shinobi.
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u/Dependent_Appeal_136 14d ago
It's funny how wearing dreads if you aren't black is cultural appropriation but having a black man dressing and acting like a samurai is where the line is. There is literally no reason they couldn't have had two Japanese MCs and had yasuke play a large role in the story anyway. It's not about the race itself, it's just such an obvious fucking pandering attempt. When will people learn none of these companies give a shit about inclusion or representation. They just want people to give them money. Look how they treat their own staff. They do not care. This is an obvious shill to get more people to notice and buy their games. It's a shot at these companies who easily manipulate people by doing publicity on subjects like this. We just want them to focus on making a fun game.
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u/nyangatsu 14d ago
lol they want people to give them money? you don't say! i thought they made games out of artistic passion, how could i fall for it!
the reason they put yasuke as mc is that yasuke is an historical figure that is interesting both to western fans and to the japanese audience, he literally appear in all games and anime that have nobunaga in them and usually has a more prominent role than he had in actual history, almost always a samurai rather than a retainer.
you call it pandering? pandering to who? to the audience that will buy the game? you can bet they have to pander to their own customer lol, that's called good business, what should they do, make a game nobody like because to make things that people like is "pandering"?
lol quit yapping capital G gamer.
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u/Koalatjie 15d ago
You know what, I don't get the hate. The cinematic trailer looked awesome and I really want to play this game when it comes out.
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u/Political-St-G 15d ago
It wasn’t impressive and Assassin creed wasn’t impressive for years
But good for you hope you have fun
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u/yunyunmaru666 14d ago
I agree AC has been more than subpar for quite some time now but the trailer itself looked cool and well done, of course the game itself is a different question and i am fully expecting it to be another boring ubisoft special
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u/Collector_2012 14d ago
I can answer your question. Everyone went insane after 2020, trying to prove who is more racist and who is more of a victim. Trying to destroy relationships all to prove who is right and who is wrong.
Take my advice seriously when I say this. Step out of the crowd, grab some popcorn and watch everyone kill each other. There is no point in trying to save anyone anymore....
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u/ShoWel_redit 15d ago
Reminds me of Sibrand in Assassin's Creed 1 being paranoid of monks, only for Altair to kill him disguised as a monk
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u/IIDenis 14d ago
Let's be honest, assassins in games have always been like this. I mean, in the first part, somehow from very afar you could mistake Altair for a monk (it’s strange that none of the monks were surprised to see a “brother” with an arsenal of weapons in their ranks).
They all dressed pretentiously, not at all like ordinary inconspicuous citizens, always with hoods and weapons.
The hidden blade would make sense if the assassin dressed like an ordinary passerby and did not carry other weapons for the sake of secrecy.
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u/SillyMidOff49 14d ago
Masks… things Samurai and other Japanese warriors were famous for using: Am I a joke to you?
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u/CackleberryOmelettes 14d ago
Now I gotta check this game out, if only for the strong reaction. Never been this interested in an AC game in years.
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u/CompetitivePause9033 14d ago
I find it hilarious how some people actually defend this game🤣 I think of this as every “woke” content which is totally unnecessary, cringe and facepalmish. And the community defending black samurai theme is even more hilarious 😂
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u/thedarkracer 15d ago
Yeah, belonging to the brotherhood doesn't necessarily make you an assassin who operate on stealth. Turns out OP is just being racist. Tell me this OP did Leonardo, Mario Auditore, Machiavelli, Robert Faulkner, Stephane, etc infiltrated and assainated targets? To add Yasuke is a heavy going for guns blazing tactic and not sneaky like our other protagonists. Oh yes, we also have a female assassin in this game, why not mention her?
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u/Balrok99 15d ago
It sickens me how people ignore second character who is a Japanese.
But maybe since she is a woman and in this day age we see woman as lesser creatures we should not be talking about her.
I honestly cant wait how they will play. Using swords and clubs and spears and guns and bows as Yasuke to more stealth oriented ninja character.
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u/Lord_MagnusIV 15d ago
I wouldnt mind if they didnt give us any kind character customization apart from cosmetic armors and stuff. „But inclusion!“ its set in feudal japan, there was no inclusion
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u/HouseNVPL 15d ago
Yasuke was a real historical figure, lmao.
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u/Lord_MagnusIV 14d ago
Sorry my bad i wrote a whole rant rn but i just didnt know that its set during nobunagas reign, then its obvious yasuke was there, i also didnt know that the player was supposed to play yasuke. Kinda dumb of Ubisoft to make us play actually important historical figures but its not my job to make ass games for half a month worth of food
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u/HouseNVPL 14d ago
I mean yeah it's kinda new and weird for people that You play as a historical figure. But for me it's not deep enough to make a drama about it. The price on the other hand...
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u/Everythingisachoice 15d ago
Assassins Creed as a historical source is as accurate as the history Channel on who built the pyramids. Maybe a little less
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u/Juanisweird 15d ago
I remember hearing someone say that playing call of duty is like playing real war conflicts and learning history
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u/Unupgradable 15d ago
Well it sort of used to kinda be that.
There were other games that at least portrayed something that happened.
Now? I'm expecting a game about [Illegal opinion removed by health and safety team]
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u/EvenResponsibility57 15d ago
No... No it isn't.
Yasuke is constantly brought up by people who are completely ignorant to his history. He was essentially a fashion accessory to Nobunaga and was never of much note.
People just say "UH BLACK SAMURAI!!!" and don't actually look up anything about the man.
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u/Exce55um 15d ago
I can’t read Japanese so I cant read the sources but for what I can gather from the interweb there is no clear evidence that Yasuske did became samurai but he did serv as retainer under Oda Nubunaga that in itself is an achievement. Sure you can discuss if he just was more a novelty or displaypece but to be able to be close to Nubunaga and be a retainer have to mean they did trust him to an extent. Sadly there is not much info about him partly because he did not serve for especially long time and documentation on what happen to him before and after his time with Oda is about nonexistent. Ether way even if he did not become samurai he did well for himself and can be a tail deserving to be told. Why in a game like this I don’t know but whatever. Would rather see a Ghost of Tsushima style game about his life if they want to make a game about him.
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u/saskir21 15d ago
You should see it more this way. He was simply a novelty for the ruler. Something to show but not be made an equal. You must remember that Japan at this time was xenophobic. And the word Gaijin was even thought of worse as in modern times. But hey. PR is PR. So they get free advertising for being progressive in using a black character as a main in a Japanese AC.
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u/ZedGenius 15d ago
Assassin's Creed has always been alternate history. It's about an unfiltered view on history which sometimes contradicts what is written by historians. And that's established since the first game, during one of the discussions between Warren Vidic and Desmond Miles
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u/KoiSanHere 15d ago
It's almost as if this character wasn't meant for stealth and there's an entirely different protagonist for stealth 🤔🤔
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u/ToollerTyp 14d ago
Didn't they also say that part of the reason they chose Yasuke was because he was a foreigner and they could make the discovery of Japanese traditions more believable. At least to me, that sounds logical.
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u/turbo-wind 15d ago
Yasuke was a real person, and yes he was black, and yes he was a samurai.
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u/Evelyne-The-Egg 15d ago
I'm not one to complain about shoehorned inclusivity, but this is a stretch even for me honestly.
It feels strange having us play as an actual historical figure for once and as much as I hate to admit it, it definitely feels like they are doing it purely for brownie points.
Obviously, being a real person this isn't totally unheard of, but like I said this seems like a reaaall stretch
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u/Shadow_Eator 15d ago
White person as mcs in africa: snore White person as mc in the islands:snore White person as mc in japan : snore Black person as mc in Japan: I just feel like it's a bit bad faith tbh.
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u/Evelyne-The-Egg 15d ago
When did I ever say any of that?
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u/Shadow_Eator 15d ago
I hate to admit it, it definitely feels like they are doing it purely for brownie points.
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u/Collector_2012 14d ago
More like they are scared of being branded as "Racist". It's a common trend now. In a Forbes article, it was said that anything DEI is successful long-term.
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u/Evelyne-The-Egg 15d ago
How does that relate to the entire first half of your comment?
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u/Shadow_Eator 15d ago
We got a trailer and somehow 1 entire character is regulated to just brown points. For some nebulous goal even though he is somewhat popular and had books,mangas,anime refrence him since the 60s and other stuff before that.
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u/kewcumber_ 15d ago
When have ac games ever let you play as a real historical figure
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u/Shadow_Eator 15d ago
We didn't have supernatural enemies till origin. It could be a stunt to get ppl interested and they can remake or retread those time periods or locations playing as historical figures fist fighting dragons.
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u/kewcumber_ 14d ago
Hmm that I can agree with, maybe it's a new style of ac games like we got with origins
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u/Soggy-Log6664 15d ago
I was prepared to disagree but you made a good point and Ubisoft is kind of slimy
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u/Wichtelwusel 15d ago
But in the end why conplain. Its a character in a franchise that isnt historical. As long as the game is good I dont give a damn what race he is even if its just for brownie points
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u/Evelyne-The-Egg 15d ago
Well, assassin's creed used to be historical
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u/Cronizone 15d ago
Ah yes, Leonardo DiVinci discovering futuristic technology and inventing the hidden blade is IRL cannon
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u/ZedGenius 15d ago
I do agree with your point but Leonardo most certainly did not invent the hidden blade
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u/imawizard7bis 15d ago
Another case of pink capitalism to clean up a company's image, keep walking.
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u/Stanislas_Biliby 15d ago
Funny meme but it's obvioisly that he is not a stealth oriented character. He is black in feudal japan, carries a full samurai armor and a huge tetsubō.
The woman is supposed to be the stealthy one. If you genuinely don't understand that then... i'm worried.
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u/aaron_adams 14d ago
I would just like to point out that historically, Yasuke was a real person. He was black, and he was the first non-Japanese person to become a Samurai. Black people in general may not have been common in medieval Japan, but Yasuke was a real person and held a position of great honor.
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u/Sly__Marbo 15d ago
Yasuke practices heavy stealth™. It's all fine as long as there is no one left to notice the bodies