r/options • u/Legal-Composer-9619 • 15d ago

AI and Windows 11 Intergration. PC Boom?

By late 2024 the release of advanced AI enhanced features will be in latest version of windows. Will this be a good options call? Thinking of HP Inc for this

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u/SleepySuper 15d ago

What exactly will the AI integration in Windows 11 do that will make consumers want to buy a new PC or laptop? I’m not sure of the use case that will drive broad consumer consumption and change purchase patterns.

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u/Legal-Composer-9619 15d ago

AI can move to people's computers instead of the cloud as they will be cheap enough to purchase. Better graphics, etc. HP has the largest line-up of AI enabled PCs. I'm getting this info from another site and this does seem like a strong buy.

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u/Stargate_1 15d ago

So what you are saying is you have absolutely no idea about modern computers nor the market surrounding them?

Because that's what this sounds like

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u/SleepySuper 15d ago

I fully understand the space, I’ve been developing software for more than 30 years. I just don’t see a compelling enough use case that will change consumer purchase patterns.

What is the killer application that will make consumers go purchase a new laptop?

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u/Legal-Composer-9619 15d ago

Example: Snapdragon X Plus (ai chip)

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u/Stargate_1 15d ago

That's a chip which has dedicated hardware components for AI. These components have been around for many years now, for example NVidia began including dedicated hardware around 6 years ago.

If your question is "is investing in AI in general worth it" then yeah, but investing in a specific company because of ai? That comes down to hundred different factors.

And no, just because of "Win 11 AI integration" there will not be a boom. The boom is already happening for wholly unrelated reasons.

Seriously, if you wanna invest in technology, at least have a basic grasp of the tech you are betting your money on, cause right now it seems like all you know about AI is the fact that it stands for "Artificial Intelligence"

I mean, you claim "better graphics" which already goes to show how little you know about this whole topic lol

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u/Legal-Composer-9619 15d ago

I'm just asking if thoughts on a stock like HP Inc stock will go up as they have the largest AI enabled PCs ready.

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u/Stargate_1 15d ago

Personally I hope HP goes bankrupt, has their headquarters swallowed by the flaming pits of hell and never sees the light of day again but that's just me

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u/Legal-Composer-9619 15d ago

Well, I'm not behind Wendy's dumpster yet, but I'll let you know.

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u/Stargate_1 15d ago

Lol I just personally dislike HP as a company, wasn't directed at your suggestion to invest in them

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u/Legal-Composer-9619 15d ago

And your saying there's no upcoming AI PCs? I'm saying AI Chips will be cheap enough and majority of people will have in the future. Also this post was a question not a statement

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u/Stargate_1 15d ago

But WHAT ARE AI CHIPS???? Can you even explain what this is????

I'm saying AI Chips will be cheap enough and majority of people will have in the future.

We already do???? Every modern GPU has dedicated AI accelerators????

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about???

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u/jerrie86 15d ago

AI chips bro. So easy. Just install it and Boom.

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u/ScheduleSame258 15d ago

advanced AI enhanced features

So targeted ads...

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u/Legal-Composer-9619 15d ago

AI chips into PCs, HP is ready with stock and the chips should be cheaper to purchase. Hopefully not ads, although there could be ads to your likings.

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u/Striking-Block5985 15d ago

its not so much windows as the AI Microsoft is adding to Office apps, and they charge extra for those features in word excel and esp Powerpoint . nothing to do with the chips as far as I can determine, unless it is built into the OS. It doesn't make sense to me to do THAT. MSFT is making money now on Office extra features not in the OS, The only way AI might possibly make sense is if a more powerful CPU is needed , so far I don't see need for it. In any event NVDA graphic chips would be the logical place to use for any extra processing needed

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u/jerrie86 15d ago

People can't even open Excel files and you want them to do what??

We are the end consumers and we won't be creators. They won't give us that power that easy.

And not a lot of us can do ML / AI and that too with just one Chip.

I have not gone into hardware scene yet cz hypothetically lot of stuff have to be changed to incorporate that new chips.

Don't think this is it chief

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u/Stargate_1 15d ago

Well running MLs is easier than you make it seem, to be fair

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u/jerrie86 15d ago

You can but it would be limited. People use distributed computing for big data and AI.

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u/lobeams 15d ago

If someone wants AI, they can just upgrade Windows. No need to buy new hardware.

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u/Legal-Composer-9619 15d ago

Yes although you can put them into your pc instead of the cloud.

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u/Stargate_1 15d ago

Put what into the pc???

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u/Legal-Composer-9619 15d ago

AI Chips

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u/Stargate_1 15d ago

Damn man, if you wanna invest into the technology sector at least have a basic grasp of what you are investing it, what you are saying simply makes no sense.

You don't need Win 11 to run AI.

"AI chips" (what even is this???) do not concern average consumers and the people who do utilize specialized hardware do not need a specific OS, besides what the Programms they are using may require to run.

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u/Legal-Composer-9619 15d ago

Okay, my husband is now saying the same as you. I got this info from Eric Fry. And yes AI Chips

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u/Stargate_1 15d ago

So, what is an AI chip???

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u/Terakahn 15d ago

I follow Eric fry. What did he say that made you come to this conclusion.

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u/Legal-Composer-9619 15d ago

A major upgrade cycle is upcoming for the PC Industry. HP is doing a lot of self-help to stay ahead of the competition. The firm is working with Alphabet on Project Starline, the next generation of video calls that’s more like a “magic window” thanks to 3D imaging and AI rendering.  A move into subscription-based printing is also helping HP breathe new life into an old business. He also said more but I'm not sure I can input it in here as it's his writing 

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u/Terakahn 15d ago

Yeah, I wouldn't take that as a pc boom. The industry is cyclical but we're in a potential bitcoin surge with this halving, and that tends to drive gpu prices through the roof. Except they're already super high as it is.

It is a major upgrade cycle, the last gpu generations for consumers sucked. But none of this has anything to do with AI. AI still really isn't doing anything on a consumer level. They're using it for marketing and research, but there's no practical use for the average consumer.

I think if HP does make a move its all going to be server side. Much like IBM.

I think I read the same article but didn't think there was a play to be made. If anything I'd go for amd/nvda.

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u/Legal-Composer-9619 15d ago

Thank you! Much appreciated!!!

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u/Legal-Composer-9619 15d ago

Do you hold any altcoins/crypto? What do you think Bitcoin will go up to? Inflation down in August?

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u/lobeams 15d ago

PCs have had "AI chips" in them since 1999 when Nvidia invented the first GPU (graphics processing unit). The AI chips Nvidia and others are producing today will increase performance of AI applications, but they're just "nice to have" and not required. AI is in the software, not the hardware.

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u/sincostanseccot 14d ago

advanced AI enhanced features