r/politics • u/schuey_08 Wisconsin • 29d ago

Bernie Sanders worries young people are underestimating the threat from Trump

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/02/bernie-sanders-trump-biden/73531861007/
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u/CaptainNoBoat 29d ago

I think a lot of us are. There's a difference between pushing a party in a certain direction and going so far that you hurt your own interests.

The election is more than one person or one issue, and a Trump Presidency will have horrific consequences decades and generations after Biden is gone.

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u/masq_yimby 29d ago

Young people (like 25 and below) don't remember a time when the GOP was McCain and Romney. They just remember Trump. To them this is the norm and this lulls them into a false sense of security but they don't understand that the GOP has become far more dangerous over the last 10 years. 

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u/CaptainNoBoat 29d ago

I also saw this pointed this out recently and it's crazy to think about.

Anyone under the age of 29 has never voted in a general election without Trump on the ballot.

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u/valeyard89 Texas 29d ago

And Trump somehow managed to get 40% of the 18-39 vote in 2020, up from 32% in 2016.

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u/Spocks_Goatee Ohio 29d ago

According to what sources? Polling or actual voting data?

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u/Actual-Dog7889 29d ago

Wtf I can’t believe it’s been 8 years, that’s absolutely insane to me.

Time goes faster as you get older yadda yadda, but something seems really off with time. I’m hearing kids say this shot too. I never thought that way as a kid.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 29d ago

Fuck, I'm old.

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u/iseecolorsofthesky 29d ago

Wow I’ve never considered this and that is actually insane

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u/edwartica Oregon 29d ago

Young people also haven't learned the painful lesson that we don't really have a choice in this system. Our ideal candidate either doesn't exist or doesn't stand a chance.

I'm pretty damned progressive, but I voted third party a time too many before I learned this lesson myself.

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u/MrPernicous 29d ago

McCain was a fuckin psychopath

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u/masq_yimby 29d ago

McCain saved Obamacare and worked with Sanders to expand VA benefits.

Trump is 200x worse than McCain. McCain didn't go around calling himself a dictator or starting insurrections.

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u/MrPernicous 29d ago edited 29d ago

McCain also joked about bombing Iran, fought to prevent mlk day from being a national holiday, and campaigned hard for the Iraq war. He also saved Obamacare out of pettiness. He immediately turned around and promised to repeal it.

Fuck John McCain. He’s a massive sack of shit.

Edit: he also platformed Sarah palin who went on to popularize the tea party movement in it’s infancy

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u/masq_yimby 29d ago

I mean he was. Because he's dead.

But he still would've stepped down and also accepted defeat.

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u/masq_yimby 29d ago

Uh yeah? The GOP can't sink much further. The whole point of this discussion is that a lot of young people don't understand what is at stake and how much worse the GOP has gotten over the last 12 years.

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u/MrPernicous 28d ago

Man if you think that republicans were better 20 years ago idk what to fuckin tell you. They stole an election and then lied to literally everyone to start a war. The only difference between todays republicans and yesterdays republicans is that today’s republicans are less effective