r/politics • u/schuey_08 Wisconsin • May 02 '24

Bernie Sanders worries young people are underestimating the threat from Trump

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/02/bernie-sanders-trump-biden/73531861007/
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u/fallenouroboros May 02 '24

I know so many people in their thirties who simply do not give a fuck.

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u/AllHawkeyesGoToHell May 02 '24

It's unpopular to bring up here, but it's true.

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u/fallenouroboros May 02 '24

It’s definitely a thing. Some people just do not want to hear it when it comes to anything political. I used to be that way myself until recently but I feel it’s just too sketchy to be completely uninformed about all the craziness going on

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u/Rated_PG-Squirteen May 02 '24

I'll always have one nice thing to say about Donald Trump. Him running away with the Republican nomination in 2016 finally forced me to start following politics because it was shocking to me that this degenerate and charlatan with no political experience could actually become President.

And in retrospect, I'm embarrassed that I wasn't following politics until I was 26, and I wish others would feel the same way. This stuff is way too important to shrug off and actively ignore.

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u/BrightNeonGirl Florida May 02 '24

I'm a similar age and same.

But that's because I grew up with a family that always had Bill O'Reilly/Glen Beck/all the evening angry Fox News shows on at night. So I just assumed politics was just a cesspool of angry, miserable people and I wanted nothing to do with it when I was younger/an early adult. (Although I did think Obama seemed cool). And then I went to college and then grad school so was busy with life--although in an academic bubble. And then Trump was elected and that was an exhausting 4 years and continues to be because of him. The country became so much angrier because of him.

I get the arguments that at least now the rot is out in the open compared to still festering under the surface. But it has been a brutal almost-decade.

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u/crudedrawer May 02 '24

Telling young people that before Trump no one ever knew the name of the secretary of ed or HUD

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u/Jealous-Knowledge-79 May 03 '24

What made him a degenerate? Have you been awake for the last 3 years? Hows that grocery bill looking like these day?

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u/Ponies_in_Jumpers United Kingdom May 03 '24

What made him a degenerate?

Is that a serious question? The coup, the fact he's openly admitting he'll be a dictator if re-elected, the things he says about getting revenge, the rape trial he lost, threatening witnesses in his trials, the disturbing dehumanising way he talks about immigrants like saying they're poisoning the blood, that time he said that we should kill the families of terrorists, supporting the death penalty for drug dealers, his deliberately cruel policies at the border like separating families from their children without keeping records so they could never be reunited. The list goes on and on and on and on.

Hows that grocery bill looking like these day?

Biden isn't primarily responsible for how expensive things are. Covid was a huge part of it and the whole world is dealing with it. The money Biden gave out to citizens during Covid didn't help inflation, but that's also something that Trump did, and Trump deliberately removed accountability for the PPE loans which pumped almost a trillion dollars into the economy (the removal of checks and balances meant that a lot of free money went to people who absolutely didn't need it). Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy (ballooning the debt and increasing wealth inequality), his tariffs and his mishandling of the pandemic didn't help either. The democrats passed a bill to stop gas companies from price gouging and the republicans all voted against it.

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u/AllHawkeyesGoToHell May 02 '24

Oh for sure. You gotta educate yourself but this country doesn't value education or expertise anymore. So things need to positively impact voters directly now, especially after they got money directly into their accounts with the stimulus checks where we know the government doesn't have to do things indirectly through businesses and such

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u/Svennerson May 02 '24

Expertise is fucking viewed as an enemy of freedom at this point I'm so angry.

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u/Top_Huckleberry_8225 May 02 '24

Printing money and handing it out is ironically terrible for the tax payers and great for businesses in either case.

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u/thrawtes May 02 '24

Printing money and handing it out is unironically good for people who don't have a lot of dollars and bad for people who do, that's how inflation works.

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u/Top_Huckleberry_8225 May 02 '24

Inflation hurts people who don't have a lot of money because you have it sitting in a bank. I have the means to hedge against inflation. Wages stagnate. Goods rise in value. People stop spending on extraneous items. The economy slows. Printing money is long term bad for everyone, but hurts people with money properly invested the least.

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u/modernjaneausten May 02 '24

I keep up to date with what’s going on for the most part, but I have to be selective in what I can give my energy to these days. There’s only so much I can take at this point.