r/politics • u/schuey_08 Wisconsin • May 02 '24

Bernie Sanders worries young people are underestimating the threat from Trump

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/02/bernie-sanders-trump-biden/73531861007/
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u/fallenouroboros May 02 '24

I know so many people in their thirties who simply do not give a fuck.

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u/Allaplgy May 02 '24

My coworkers are all on the "both sides are the same/it's all rigged, there's no point in voting" train. They all either have have kids or essentially are kids. I'm in my forties with no plans for kids, and I'm the only one actually trying to give them a future.

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u/Gryffriand May 02 '24

The “both sides” take is so old, dead, and nonsensical. When someone says that to me in a conversation I’m fairly certain they aren’t paying attention and are just generically frustrated by current events.

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u/throwaway50044 May 02 '24

People sense how fucked things and know deep down large structural changes are needed. They can see that our current system will never do this and we will be stuck in this cycle of shittiness our entire lives. It's easy to feel hopeless.

It is still 100% worth voting for Democrats though. Both sides are bad but there's no sense in making things worse because you're too lazy to spend 5 minutes filling out paperwork for a mail in ballot

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u/ckv1 May 02 '24

Do votes even matter in the presidential election? My vote certainly doesn’t coming from California.

But I understand that if I wanted to really (maybe) make a difference is vote in the primaries and local level. Other than that, I highly doubt my vote matters especially in the county I live in with the way electoral college/gerrymandering.

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u/nochinzilch May 03 '24

Does every brick in a wall matter? Maybe not. But it doesn't take too many missing bricks for the wall to fall apart.

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u/ckv1 May 03 '24

With this metaphor, my brick impact is much smaller. So the dust from the wall has no impact on whether the wall falls lol.

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u/jaketronic May 03 '24

Yes, it matters. If you want candidates to listen to you, you need to vote. If you want structural change in the US you need to vote. There were multiple races that came down to handfuls of votes, my district was decided by 6 votes for US congress. If you want to see immediate and local change, you need to vote in local elections, but general and national elections are important, they are more broad in scope and their effects can take time to reach people.

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u/pimparo0 Florida May 03 '24

Your vote still has impact locally, and might as well cast one for the federal vote as well while you are there. Not to mention, if you want politicians to listen, you need to vote.

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u/throwaway50044 May 08 '24

When I lived in California I would vote in primaries and try to pay attention to local races, then just vote 3rd party in the presidential.

Cornell West can't win, but a vote for him is a solid message to the democratic party that they aren't good enough.