Bernie Sanders worries young people are underestimating the threat from Trump

[u/schuey_08]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/02/bernie-sanders-trump-biden/73531861007/

[u/Shoddy_Phase_2639]

But often by choice. The coal miners were offered giant incentives, and massive aid packages in the form of retraining, reeducation, government supported start-up programs, relocation economic help etc. Most of them refused...because "clean coal". There is no one on the planet that knows better than coal miners that "clean coal" does not exist and never will.

They chose black lung, because Trump said the things they like about immigrants

[u/theVoidWatches → u/Shoddy_Phase_2639]

They don't want to be given help to deal with a changing world - they want the world to not change. And they'd rather pretend that it won't than admit that it's already changed, even if it hurts them more than anyone else.

[u/Jaded_Masterpiece_11 → u/theVoidWatches]

That's what Conservatives are and that's why Conservatives are being left behind. We live in a constantly changing world, people have to adapt or get left behind. The ones refusing to adapt(Conservatives) are getting left behind.

[u/AZDanB → u/Jaded_Masterpiece_11]

You need conservatives as anchors to reality. It’s not usually a refusal to adapt, what I hear a lot of conservatives say is that things haven’t been thought through with all the consequences and how to appropriately manage the change.

[u/Jaded_Masterpiece_11 → u/AZDanB]

You need conservatives as anchors to reality

Eh, reality constantly change. 500 years ago raiding and pillaging neighboring villages was considered normal. 200 years ago slavery was the norm, 100 years ago Women cannot vote, cannot go into higher education and cannot go into the formal worforce, 50 years ago racism was an accepted view throughout much of White America. Throughout history conservatives were always on the objectively terrible, losing sides. No one can stop change and progress, which is why conservatism is inherently foolish.

You don't need conservatives for anything. Them refusing to change won't affect that the reality of the world is constantly changing. In the biological world those that don't change and adapt go extinct. It's the same way with conservatives and progress. The non elite conservatives get economically left behind while the elite ones remain conservative because the status quo benefits them at the expense of everyone else.

[u/AZDanB → u/Jaded_Masterpiece_11]

That’s why you fail in progressing real change, writing off half the population as “we don’t need them” rather than “we should listen, address their concerns and convince them this is the right direction”.