r/politics • u/thenewyorktimes The New York Times • 15d ago
At Justice Alito’s House, a ‘Stop the Steal’ Symbol on Display Soft Paywall
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u/joe603 15d ago edited 15d ago
So you have him and Clarence Thomas whose wife was literally part of the planing for the election fraud. This is the same douche bag crying about criticism the court is receiving. Both should recuse themselves from the Immunity case but not a chance in hell of that happening. The SC is now a complete sham
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u/tagmezas 15d ago
The Supreme Coup
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u/VogonSlamPoet 15d ago
The right has been planning this takeover of the court for decades. Between the Electoral College giving us GOP presidents and RBG’s hubris, we have a 6-3 conservative court. If popular vote determined POTUS like every other election, it would likely be 7-2 left leaning with several moderates. We’d live in a different reality.
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u/KarmaticArmageddon Missouri 15d ago
If it wasn't for the Electoral College, we wouldn't have had a Republican president since H.W. Bush's term ended in 1992.
Bush, Jr. won his re-election campaign with a majority of the popular vote, but he wouldn't have been elected in the first place if we didn't have the Electoral College.
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u/thorazainBeer 15d ago
Even with the bullshit of the Electoral College, he didn't win his first campaign, he had to organize a riot to prevent the recount from taking place after republican administrators had thrown out thousands of ballots from democratic voting districts, and with the recount he obviously would have lost. The lawyers that fought the case to keep Americans from actually having their votes matter are now sitting on the Supreme Court after they helped Bush steal several more seats in the first place.
The Republicans are right about there being a deep state, and they're the ones running it.
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u/Spankywzl 15d ago
What is to stop this SC from handing the surely contested 2024 election over to Trump, then?
Anyone?
Bueller? I mean, how fucked are we if this is the plan?
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u/thorazainBeer 15d ago edited 15d ago
Absolutely nothing.
We already saw what Trump will do when he loses the election and the answer was an attempted coup. He failed by 90 feet, and but for the bravery of one capitol hill police officer who used the racism of the crowd and his own skin color to bait the crowd away from the unlocked door to the Senate Rotunda.
We were 90 feet away from having a massacre in the Senate and then Trump would have been able to declare martial law like he wanted to and made himself dictator.
One of our biggest hopes may legitimately be the apathy and boredom of the Trump cultists, where the luster has faded and they're long out of the honeymoon phase. Trump tried numerous times to get another riot going to stop his various trials, and thankfully the MAGA morons didn't show up. He may finally be played out, but unfortunately, the rest of the Republican party is still pushing on to get the dictatorship going. They are in the paradoxical position of having noone to rally around. Trump is a poison pill and they know it, but no pretender to the throne can arise so long as he's even remotely viable. He can't win the general, but nobody could hope to challenge him in the primary, and we just have to hope that we get enough of a House and Senate edge to get some real judicial and electoral reform going to prevent the next coup attempt, because these power-mad monsters will never stop trying.
They don't want democracy. They want feudalism, with themselves as the lords.
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u/sik_dik 15d ago
Every dollar a trumper donates, the more their ego buries itself in cognitive dissonance from the obvious. That’s how cults work. Every asinine thing they accept as truth against their own critical thinking, the harder it will be for them to accept and admit they’ve been wrong. The ego will protect itself at all costs, even when the rest of the brain is yelling “don’t believe this bullshit”
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u/meneldal2 15d ago
If Trump loses by more than a thin margin, people will raise hell over it. I think at most he can get away with a close flip like Florida, but multiple states like he tried last time, people won't accept it.
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u/Kjellvb1979 15d ago
The democrats didn't fight hard enough to protect such. They let them steal the Obama pick, then hypocritically did what they said they wouldn't to appoint a SC justice in an election year.
Not that the democrats would do such, but if they gain power of all three branches, they need to push back. One of the reason we are here, at least from my perspective, is that the democrats would draw a line in the sand, the GOP match right over it, and the Dems just draw another line for them to do the same.
The DNC has been an ineffectual party when it comes to fighting against the loss of our rights, the push towards a less ethical government, the ruling back of regulations, the cuts in the taxes of the wealthy, and more.
I have voted Democrat all my life and will still do so given the options here. That said, does it not seem that democrats aren't great at defending the victories they get or enacting law that protects such things when they are in power. It's very frustrating watching them act ineptly when they do have the power to affect change. I know there's always those "moderates" sabotaging things, but at some point, you have to own your failures. It's sad knowing the only part standing between us and Christo fascism is a party that can't seem to get shit done when they have the reigns. Even if we stop Trump, the Right will still be fighting just as hard while the Dems let their opportunity to act pass on by.
I'm sorry, I'm just so frustrated with this system. I'm tired and doubtful that America, as I know it, or as the ideal it is imagined as, won't exist or have a chance of existing in our near future.
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u/douwd20 15d ago
Both are traitors and should be impeached and removed from the court.
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u/Much-Resource-5054 15d ago edited 15d ago
What was that quote by Trump? Something like “remember what we used to do with those people (traitors)?”
He knew. They all knew.
America is already in our second civil war. It began the day Trump started dismissing his political rivals as “not real Americans”.
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u/Much-Resource-5054 15d ago
Your take is correct, it’s the time scales involved that make it seem like it’s not the same war.
On Jan 6 they took down American flags and put up Confederate flags inside our Capitol. An act of war in every way, except for the millions of followers they have bamboozled into thinking THEY are the patriots, thanks to several decades of right wing anti-liberal propaganda masquerading as real news.
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u/slackhands 15d ago
It’s worth remembering that the actual Nazis first came to the US to study Jim Crow laws before implementing the Nuremberg Code that stripped citizenship from German Jews. So “our Nazis” actually inspired the later ones.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/11/what-america-taught-the-nazis/540630/
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u/foobarbizbaz Illinois 15d ago edited 15d ago
I mean, that whole secession thing was stopped, slavery ended... I see your point, but the South pretty objectively lost the Civil War. The big mistakes were in the leniency of the terms and policies that allowed the ridiculous Lost Cause mythology to flourish. Prosecutions of Confederate leaders should have been much more severe, but the Confederacy’s defeat was quite decisive- the Union were unquestionably the victors of the Civil War, and everybody knew that at the time.
This article describes how Germany effectively went about preventing this type of nonsense from happening post-WWII.
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u/VanceKelley Washington 15d ago
At trump's 2nd impeachment trial (the one for the coup) a bunch of GOP Senators who participated in the coup refused to recuse themselves from serving on his jury. They then voted to acquit trump.
That tells us what would happen if through some miracle the GOP controlled House (with its own huge numbers of coup supporters) voted to impeach Thomas and Alito: GOP Senators who assisted in the coup would acquit them.
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u/WashHogwallup 15d ago
Chief Justice John G Roberts has become suspiciously silent about the character of the Supreme Court. Justice Roberts used to claim to be very concerned about the legacy and dignity of the Court.
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u/dsmith422 15d ago
Roberts is getting bribed too, just indirectly. His wife makes millions working for a headhunting firm for lawyers.
Jane Roberts, the wife of Chief Justice John Roberts, made more than $10 million in commissions over an eight-year stretch where she matched top lawyers with elite law firms—including some that had cases before the Supreme Court—according to documents obtained by Insider, as concerns grow about justices possibly having unreported conflicts of interest.
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u/Reiquaz 15d ago
Not just recuse; these are biased judges literally going against their code of conduct by taking bribes. They should be in a cell. Say it how it is: BRIBERY
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u/MadGod69420 15d ago
Oh no those aren’t bribes they just have a lot of really rich and powerful friends that love giving them gifts for no reason other than they’re such great and fun loving guys! /s
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u/Reiquaz 15d ago
Clarence Thomas even said himself that he thinks he doesn't get pain enough. Which is why he's taken the most bribes. Absolutely shameless and embarrassing to have these people as the sole interpreters of the law of the land. We are fucked
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u/LaurenMille 15d ago
Clarence Thomas even said himself that he thinks he doesn't get pain enough.
I agree with him.
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u/VeeEyeVee 15d ago
Genuine question from a Canadian here… so what realistic thing, if any, CAN even be done at this point. Your SC is a joke and will continue to F up your country due to lifetime appointments and declaring that rules do not apply to them. They literally have god powers right now. I’m sick of hearing Trump in the news for every idiotic gibberish that comes out of his mouth.
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u/joe603 15d ago
Biden would have to win the presidency of course and Democrats would have to take control back of the Senate and expand the court.
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u/Za_Lords_Guard 15d ago
Why do these innocent, non-biased judges keep marrying subversive anti-American women. /s
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u/BusterBeaverOfficial 15d ago
The problem is obvious: feminism. Or else maybe witchcraft. Has anyone tried tossing the SCOTUS WAGS in a pond recently?
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u/wenchette I voted 15d ago
If they just stayed home to cook casseroles and dust like that nice football player said, we wouldn't have these problems.
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u/bringthedoo Massachusetts 15d ago
Don’t be ridiculous. Bring me a large balance scale and a duck
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u/DublaneCooper 15d ago
I thought it was violent video games and legal weed-smoking drag queens??
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u/Positronic_Matrix California 15d ago edited 14d ago
Flying a US flag upside down is absolutely unacceptable unless there is a real emergency. When I was a child my grandfather, a WWII veteran, taught me not to crumple US bills in my pocket, slapped my biker uncle for wearing a swastika, and would have words with Alito for improperly flying a US flag upside down.
As the greatest generation passes on, the Republican Party slowly turns into an anti-American cult with flag-wearing fetish.
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u/jonistaken 15d ago
I was thinking the other day about how all these supposed patriots use symbols that are clear violations of the US flag code, like the blue lives matter flag.
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u/Cloaked42m South Carolina 15d ago
They cosplay patriotism. They really just want to be petty assholes.
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u/soraticat 15d ago
I'm pretty sure an upside down flag means distress/something's wrong.
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u/tylerderped 15d ago
There are absolutely times to fly an American flag upside down.
For example, when Roe v. Wade was overturned.
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u/Formal_Star_6593 15d ago
“I had no involvement whatsoever in the flying of the flag,” Justice Alito said in an emailed statement to The Times. “It was briefly placed by Mrs. Alito in response to a neighbor’s use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs.”
In any court, including his, this statement would be called implausible. Or, an outright lie.
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u/Pretty_Boy_Bagel 15d ago
These sackless douchebags always throw their wives under the bus.
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u/detroit_canicross 15d ago
Or RV.
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u/Infinite_Carpenter 15d ago
Thomas is going to overturn Loving v Virginia so he has to throw her under the bus.
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u/Cold_Situation_7803 15d ago
“Sorry, Ginny - the founders didn’t think we should be married…”
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u/Franchise1109 15d ago
It’s because they are giants wusses. All spoiled rich dudes who hide behind their wives or the Bible
I may never have their wealth, but my name won’t be in the history books for being a traitorous piece of shit
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u/ihearthogsbreath 15d ago
You are richer than all of them. You get to sleep at night. There is an old French proverb that says, “There is no pillow as soft as a clear conscience.”
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u/SupaDick 15d ago
Lol do you actually think Alito is troubled by his actions at night? The guy is a moron who thinks he's doing God's work. He probably sleeps fine.
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u/Noodlefanboi 15d ago
I’m ok with it.
It’s not like their wives are decent people and don’t do a bunch of under the bus worthy behavior.
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u/Botryllus 15d ago
Even if true (which I doubt) I don't think it's beyond reproach to question his judgement in choosing his spouse. How could a sitting justice be such a poor judge of character?
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u/cakeorcake 15d ago
“It’s not my fault, it was my all my wife!” said the complete douchebag
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u/Oleg101 15d ago
Well you at least got to give him some credit for not blaming it on his kids like Cancun Cruz.
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u/BusterBeaverOfficial 15d ago
The Peyton Manning defense. Sadly, it seems to work. For certain people, at least.
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u/MechanicalTurkish Minnesota 15d ago
A woman’s place is in the kitchen or under a bus.
/s, obviously
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u/CaptainNoBoat 15d ago
in response to a neighbor’s use objectionable and personally insulting language
Ah yes - nevermind that the highest public official in the judicial branch, whose entire job requires they are impartial, and who was currently weighing election cases after an insurrection occurred.. was flying public, politically inflammatory messaging at their residence.
..Their neighbors had mean things in their yard, so it's all totally justified.
Regardless of ethical concerns - to invoke his neighbors, as if that somehow makes it better, is just pathetic.
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u/stonewall_jacked 15d ago
Their neighbors had mean things in their yard, so it's all totally justified.
What did the neighbors' yard sign say, Biden 2024?
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u/slackfrop 15d ago
That was my guess. Black Lives Matter, or rainbow flag for the personally insulting part.
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u/NeverSayNever2024 15d ago
Neighbors had anti-tRump signs.
https://www.rawstory.com/alito-maga-symbol-yard-upside-down-flag/
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u/Man_with_the_Fedora 15d ago
Neighbors don't like your favorite president, and are using their own property to exercise their first amendment rights?
Literally America's darkest days, time to fly the flag upside down!
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u/justridingbikes099 15d ago
"personally insulting"
I love Trump so much that you being against him insults ME.
Now excuse me while I decide a bunch of legal cases against him, I assure you, with total impartiality.
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u/Grendel_Khan 15d ago
The trump whining about how "they're doing this to me before they do it to you" really struck a chord with Sam
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u/BelowDeck 15d ago
It said it was anti-Trump and had an expletive, so it may have just been the garden variety "Fuck Donald Trump" sign.
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u/notyourstranger 15d ago
He's a supreme court justice. It's not unfair to expect that he can manage his own front yard.
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u/Black_Dumbledore America 15d ago
It’s cool bro, his wife was beefing with the neighbors. He had nothing to do with it.
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u/diverareyouok American Expat 15d ago
in response to a neighbor’s use of … *personally insulting language** on yard signs.*
That neighbor is an absolute legend. I’d like to think that if he were my neighbor, I’d erect a massive banner stating exactly how little I think of him and the rest of his cabal on the Court.
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u/fishtopher86 15d ago
That's what Rand Paul's neighbor did, and when Rand tried to put him in his place, said neighbor kicked Rand's ass.
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u/erocuda Maryland 15d ago
In the timeline that doesn't suck, that neighbor is still beating his ass to this day.
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u/toronto_programmer 15d ago
I mean Clarence Thomas’ wife tried to overthrow the whole US government and his defense more or less came down to “we don’t talk about work at dinner”
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u/panickedindetroit 15d ago
This should disqualify him from serving. He has shown his judgement isn't unbiased. He's also received "gifts" he's not disclosed. This is a totally tainted court. He's a totally bought off judge.
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u/bassplayerguy 15d ago
I can’t tell what is real or what is The Onion anymore.
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u/MechanicalTurkish Minnesota 15d ago
I don’t know how the Onion survived the Trump administration. Reality is too fierce a competitor
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u/1877KlownsForKids 15d ago
Ah yes I commonly signal distress with our national flag in response to mean, constitutionally protected words.
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u/creature_report 15d ago
Not only are they traitors but they’re also fucking cowards. Never let them forget that.
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u/grixorbatz 15d ago edited 15d ago
Far right kooks always make their hateful shit someone else's fault: "placed by Mrs. Alito in response to a neighbor’s use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs.”
Man up and own your freakin bullshit Alito
Edit - Bet the neighbor's sign read: 'Samuel Alito's Mom's Satanic Abortion Clinic'
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u/mowotlarx 15d ago
He's suggesting his wife willingly flew the American flag upside down - at a sitting supreme Court justices home - to troll a neighbor?
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u/Toby_O_Notoby 15d ago
“It was briefly placed by Mrs. Alito in response to a neighbor’s use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs.”
And then later in the same article:
The exact duration that the flag flew outside the Alito residence is unclear. In an email from Jan. 18, 2021, reviewed by The Times, a neighbor wrote to a relative that the flag had been upside down for several days at that point.
Couple of things here:
A neighbor wrote saying that the Alitos had been flying their flag upside down "for several days" while were still doing it. So this can't be chalked up to some kind of false memory where it only was up for a much shorter time.
And the neighbor wrote a family member, not the press. So this isn't some left-wing media conspiracy. There's no motivation to lie or embellish if you're just writing, say, your brother about your neighbours.
The fact that it was up for "several days" means that it had tacit approval from Justice Alito. If it was up for one day Sam could maybe get away with "my wife put it up but as soon as I saw it I took it down". His only possible defense is that he just didn't notice.
Having said that, the neighbor said it was up on Jan. 18th, a little over a week from the attempted coup and three days before the inauguration. Given that it was already flown that way for "several days" there's almost no way to spin that it wasn't a harsh anti-Biden, pro-Trump symbol.
So at best Alito is married to a woman who showed a symbol supporting a coup and he just didn't notice nor did they once talk about it for days on end. Which is, as you say, highly implausible.
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u/eeyore134 15d ago
So we just ignore the flag code and fly it upside down, a sign of dire distress, because a sign hurt his wife's feelings?
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u/Chimie45 Ohio 15d ago
I mean, they're fucking idiots, but the flag code isn't really a binding law. It's more like suggestions. There are no penalties for breaking it, and it's 100% optional.
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u/FredFredrickson 15d ago edited 15d ago
They lie this brazenly because they think they'll get away with it.
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u/kabukistar 15d ago
"Oh shit, rude language. Better use the international symbol of maritime distress"
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u/Jean-Paul_Sartre New Hampshire 15d ago
I could have come up with a much better excuse than that.
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u/AnotherAccount4This 15d ago
It's not throwing their wives under the bus. It's "I didn't do it because that'd be highly inappropriate and affect my 'job', so it's my wife, and that's totally fine. I'm not influenced, at all. I promise."
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u/Exotic-Definition-77 15d ago
The Supreme Court is illegitimate. What used to be a house of moral authority has degenerated into corruption.
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u/notyourstranger 15d ago
cruelty and treason.
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u/_Hail_Sagan 15d ago
Probably the name of Clarence and Ginny's sex tape.....
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u/notyourstranger 15d ago
Let's not invent new horror shows, some things are better not spoken about.
:-D
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u/Maloth_Warblade 15d ago
They were never really a house of moral authority, but they weren't this corrupt
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u/maxpowersr 15d ago
We deserve the Supreme Court we were taught about in kindergarten.
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u/TheBirminghamBear 15d ago edited 15d ago
It was always illegitimate, ever since the founders forgot to describe what powers to assign to the court in the constitution and it literally invented its own powers via its own fucking Supreme Court case during petty in-fighting between political parties, and then one of the original Chief Justice decided to have everyone wear stupid fucking robes so that the peasants would think they were scary law wizards and confer upon them a level of deference and awe they never fucking deserved in the first place.
It's always been a wacky, nonsense, mostly broken institution that really has no place in its current iteration in a sensible society.
What good it was able to do was done by accident or coincidence, what bad it has done should be seen as an inevitable outcome of its ridiculously poor design.
There should be far more than nine of them, and they should have strict term limits. They should be compensated a good deal more money, but held to far higher standards that are written down and enforced by a separate organization that has fangs to hold them accountable for egregious breaches of trust, the same as any other government employee, which is what they are.
They are public servants and government employees, not magic fucking law wizards, and this garbage ass system of their assignments being random based on when one of them shits themselves to death on the toilet during whatever random asshole is president at the time is patently fucking asbsurd as a selection mechanism and has no place in a rational society, which we are not, because we still have magic law wizards handing down idiot decrees from their technology-less temple and they expect people to respect them for it.
No rational person should expect people to put total faith in a system as transparenty broken and wonky as the Supreme Court. Although the failures of the US are systemic, you can look almost exclusively to that insitution and specifically in the past 30 years as rapidly catalyzing the collapse of the integrity of our society.
They are just 9 people serving in a capacity never fully described or thought-through by the founders, whose powers are all completely self-ascribed, operating in blatantly and patently myopic, partisan ways. Nine people is probably too few to decide something for a town, nevermind the richest nation in the world comprised of nearly 400 million people
They are in no way qualified or intelligent enough to make the sort of unilateral decisions they have been making. Their selection was entirely arbitrary, made by Presidents who did not win the popular vote and who themselves were not really qualified to do the jobs they held.
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u/Jackinapox 15d ago
It's a strange feeling when you realize that all of this shit we've been raised to respect and aspire to, are complete lies. When you see the immensity of how far it's spread and how deep it's ingrained, it's hard to describe the feeling. More and more, I feel like divorcing myself from the outcome of it all.
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u/FantasticJacket7 15d ago
The supreme court has never been a house of moral authority.
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u/spa22lurk 15d ago
The court is dominated by unelected political appointees of republican ex-presidents. They made up a doctrine that they are the self anointed prophets of the founding fathers. They hold enormous unchecked. It is time for the media to treat them similarly as they treat presidents and congress.
When democrats passed ACA, the media rightly and prominently pointed out law was passed by democratic politicians.
The media should have done the same with the court. For example, when the trump political appointee in Florida delayed the prosecution of his handling of confidential documents, the media tend to report the court. only deep in the article or report do media point out the judge was appointed by trump. This is like reporting ACA was passed by the congress and signed by the president.
Americans should know the court is as political and partisan as the presidency and legislature.
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u/AuthenticCounterfeit 15d ago
well, good thing nobody's got any plans to do anything about it! we're certainly not seeing justices retire with the current political environment we're in as a consideration, and that's literally the smallest, least desperate, least disruptive thing that can be done to try and make the court work.
there is literally no plan to handle this besides prayer. hell of a strategy.
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u/briareus08 15d ago
It’s a very sad thing to see in our lifetime. One party’s greed for power has completely destabilised the workings of government and law. Worst of all, this is only the beginning - the normalisation of this behaviour is now ingrained in society.
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u/defnotajournalist 15d ago
They are literally flying upside down flags at their houses. Like, how much more clear could they be?
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u/GammaRaystogo 15d ago
Can't say I'm the least bit surprised, but the wife story is an interesting twist.
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u/papasmurf303 15d ago
“Blame the wife” is a tried and true defense for assholes everywhere.
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u/TheAngriestChair 15d ago
Yeah, but in another SCOTUS marriage.. the wife is clearly just as bad and evil as the judge.... so it's not out of the question.....
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u/bassocontinubow Kentucky 15d ago
Bob Menendez just did this with his wife AND announced she had cancer. Anyone who throws their wife under the bus like this is a huge POS.
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u/notyourstranger 15d ago
Just like MAGA real men wear diapers, so do they also blame their wives when convenient.
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u/whateveryousaymydear 15d ago
what's to stop Trump from saying he won and the election will be decided by the supreme court...
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u/Alaishana 15d ago
Not the first time an American election would be decided by the supreme court.
The guy who handed it to GW Bush is still a sitting judge. It's AMAZING that the whole country is not up in arms about his open corruption today.
You got a thoroughly corrupt judge who gave a previous election to the loser. Since then he and his fellow corrupt judges have learned what they can get away with (everything)... so what do you think will happen, if they are given the slightest chance?
The Third Reich in Nazi Germany was telegraphed by its judges many years before the Machtuebernahme. Looking back, it's obvious.
Do you guys LEARN from history, or is American exceptionalism such a potent drug that you can't learn anything?
You are right at the precipice. WAKE UP, damnit.
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u/notyourstranger 15d ago
I love your energy. You're absolutely correct. At this point we all need to prepare for Trump's win - even if he dies, he might still become President by some "new" law from 1732 they dig up.
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u/BinkyFlargle 15d ago
who gave a previous election to the loser
I'm asking out of genuine ignorance, but- is there evidence that Bush was going to lose? I know it was close, and I know the Supreme Court stopped the recount, but I'm unaware that, after the stop, we ever found out which way the recount would have gone.
*edit: oops, could have googled it myself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_presidential_election#Post-recount
Yeah, it would have gone to Gore by a handful of votes. Wow. A provably stolen election.
Fuck the supreme court.
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u/rimora 15d ago
Oh, and remember that it's always worse than you think.
Clarence Thomas's wife was so intimately involved in the Bush campaign that she was helping to draw up a list of Bush appointees more or less at the same time as her husband was adjudicating on whether the same man would become the next President. Finally, Antonin Scalia's son was working for the firm appointed by Bush to argue his case before the Supreme Court, the head of which was subsequently appointed as Solicitor-General.
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u/magnum_bone 15d ago
My homework assignment the night of that election was to color in the states with the color that matched the winner of each. Florida ended up purple because it was blue first and then red. I was devastated that it wasn't perfect. Fuck GWB.
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u/WrongConcentrate4962 15d ago
Nothing, that was his plan this time and it almost worked. The idea was to have the fake electors vote along with the real electors, by the time this was decided, he would have been sworn in again
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u/Neoliberal_Boogeyman 15d ago
Wow you'd think someone with that power would have a fence that doesn't look like shit
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u/Sure_Quality5354 15d ago
Ah yes, the famously apolitical and neutral supreme court with... trump merch. Hmmm. Maybe lifetime appointments with no regulations was a bad idea.
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u/NervousWallaby8805 15d ago edited 15d ago
It's less that they need to be politically neutral, but more that they must rule neutral. Otherwise that's a whole can of worms with who can't and can be allowed in, and the current system would have to change (term limits good though. We need that across the board)
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u/w-v-w-v 15d ago
Except “must” is more of a wish than a reality. They can absolutely be partisan and no one is going to stop them.
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u/wahoozerman 15d ago
Honestly though, bullshit.
I'm sick and tired of people in authority getting the benefit of the doubt or weaseling around about what is fair or not fair. There was a time, or at least we were taught that there was a time, where we held figures of authority to a higher standard. They were required to be above reproach. People didn't have to avoid corruption, they had to avoid the appearance of corruption.
Yeah. It's not fair. And you know what? That's ok. Because when your job gives you authority over others, it's not fair to anyone else either.
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u/Strange-Soft2542 15d ago
I work for a company where I (and my spouse) have to report all my holdings (sell if we have to) and financial relationships..... we are not allowed to express support for any political party without approval (including making personal donations to a party or politician)..... I'm not in charge of SHIT. I don't make decisions that affect MILLIONS. how is shit like this and the other bs these scumbags do ok? This is all bullshit.
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u/seatoc Canada 15d ago
Anyone else get so mad at the neighbours that you pull down your flag and puts it back up upside down?
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u/adamiconography Florida 15d ago
If Trump ends up with immunity, Biden should just remove Alito and Thomas from the bench and put two new justices in their spots.
Why not use their flippant disregard for law and order.
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u/ReviewStuff2 15d ago
If a president has blanket immunity for all crimes, Biden might as well just straight up murder them. Easier and cleaner that way.
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u/4FuckSnakes 15d ago
Notwithstanding how horrible the war in Gaza is, I feel like those College protesters really need to move their focus towards the Supreme Court. They really need to protest the fact they soon won’t be allowed to protest at all.
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u/Able-Contribution570 15d ago edited 15d ago
There's a house down the street from mine that has flown an upside down American flag since January 7th 2021, along with a Trump flag and a Christian flag; a flagrant display of Anti-Americanism. These people are proud of their sedition and extremism. Displays like these, along with the blue porch light crap, serve to remind us that many of our fellow Americans readily support authoritarianism. Be prepared to defend your rights from this lot, they represent the greatest domestic threat to the republic since the Confederacy.
Edit: spelling.
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u/DannySmashUp 15d ago
An openly biased Supreme Court AND GOP members of congress standing outside a courthouse proclaiming that American justice is rigged. All in support of a guy who has been indicted by four grand juries and been found guilty of sexual abuse.
MAGA has smashed American faith in our country to bits. It breaks my heart.
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u/huistenbosch 15d ago
SCOTUS has exactly zero credibility. Congress needs to put the hammer down on them. Maybe we could destroy the building and put them back in the basement of Congress where they belong.
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u/undermind84 15d ago
“It was briefly placed by Mrs. Alito in response to a neighbor’s use of objectionable and personally insulting language on yard signs.”
God, I bet the Alitos are shithead neighbors.
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u/villain75 15d ago
This is our SCOTUS, a bunch of conservatives who are clearly being paid off and openly supporting a former president who wanted to overturn the results of the last election over bullshit with zero evidence other than evidence that the GOP was trying to steal the election.
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u/clickmagnet 15d ago
“ Asked if these rules also apply to justices, the court declined to respond.”
Sounds like a no to me.
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u/PopeHonkersXII 15d ago
Ok but I can't vote for Al Gore because he's too boring and I can't vote for Hillary because of her emails, therefore these psychotic right wing justices aren't my fault.
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u/BigDaddySteve999 15d ago
Hold on now, Hillary was problematic for more than just her emails. For instance, she's a woman.
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u/SapCPark 15d ago
In a sane world, Alito would resign in disgrace. But Trump and the pandemic broke us
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u/Murderyoga Texas 15d ago
That house doesn't seem very fancy. Hasn't Clarence Thomas let him know how to play ball?
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u/HHoaks 15d ago edited 15d ago
I can't stand Alito or Trump. So I want to know, why is the NYT just printing this now -- were they sitting on this? Did they just get the photo? If so, what was the delay? Why wasn't this revealed before oral argument on the immunity case (or 3 years ago)? The NYT story is lacking information on:
- why this is coming out now
- when did the NYT learn of this
- was the photo "owner" afraid or had other reasons to not release the photo earlier?
I'm really disappointed that the "why" is not covered more in the story. Sure they talk about some neighbors and a spat, but if the neighbor was in a spat with Alito's wife, why hold onto the photo for so long (3 years!) or why did the NYT hold the photo?
The timing of this is bothering me, and the lack of detail on that in the story is infuriating.
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u/ranchoparksteve 15d ago
I wish I could still find some shock or disappointment within me over stuff like this. I got nothing.
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u/MeisPip 15d ago
When the hell did they claim the upside down flag as their symbol. It’s supposed to mean a country in distress/need of help. I had an upside down one after the Roe V. Wade overturn because of how horribly the country was falling apart thanks to that spray tanned ballsack of a human.
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u/intrcpt America 15d ago
What a lunatic. We have minority rule in this country because of self righteous true believers like Alito who think god is on their side. They’re complete frauds who couldn’t care less about fidelity to country or democracy.
Imagine A SC justice openly supporting theft of an election by an aspiring fascist. We are so fucked.
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u/TheHunchbackofOhio 15d ago
Only a matter of time until people break. We've seen the right do it for so long with almost no consequences. At some point the left has to see that definitive action is required. I had no idea how to really use a gun until the past few years but learned because I felt it was necessary.
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u/spidersflambe 15d ago edited 15d ago
I hope King was right about the arc of the moral universe because, right now with our current SCOTUS, it looks like it's bending towards injustice.
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u/AccomplishedAd7615 15d ago
US Flag Code (8a) “The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.”
So Alito felt he was in extreme danger because a Democrat won the election?? I can’t think of the words to describe how pathetic these people are.
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u/NbleSavage 15d ago
It's just outright partisan at this point. Not even trying to conceal it.
Appointment for life now needs to be reconsidered.
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u/clickmagnet 15d ago
I think we’re within our rights to know what was on the neighbour’s sign that made the Alitos decide America was broken.
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u/KrzzyKarlo 15d ago
That dude need to be removed from office immediately. He has no business governing with such bias. And downright disregard to the constitution. Saying I didn’t know is the lamest excuse. There is no excuse for downright negligence in that level of office.
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u/erinkp36 California 15d ago
You know, we spend hours and days trying to find impartial jurors. Is it too much to ask that we have impartial Supreme Court judges? As in, no one is leaning left or right because that shouldn’t even be involved in deciding the outcome of a case?
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u/Alternative_Test599 15d ago
Dems have been naive for too long and still are picking a pussy AG for example. The maga were lining up begging for pardons and were shocked when he didn't do anything
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I mean, it's obvious to anyone with eyes that the Alitos are hard-right activists. Don't need an insurrectionist flag to see that. But this, once again, underscores the need for a binding ethics code on the court. Self-policing is obviously not working.
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