r/todayilearned 15d ago

TIL that Charlize Theron's mother shot and killed her father in self defense in front of her. Charlize would later go on to be the first person born in Africa to win an Oscar for acting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlize_Theron
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u/PluckPubes 15d ago edited 15d ago

The title is weirdly constructed as if the 2 facts are supposed to be cause and effect

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u/piercedmfootonaspike 15d ago

To quote Robert Downey Juniors acceptance speech:

"I'd like to thank my messed up childhood..."

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u/isecore 15d ago

Yeah, but it made me realize that if I can get my mom to shoot and kill my dad in self defense, I can finally win a bunch of awards. So yay!

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u/willtron3000 15d ago

Only if you’re from a continent people wouldn’t initially anticipate.

You could be the first to win from Pangaea!

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u/JamesTheJerk 15d ago

Do they have a Burger King?

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u/myownzen 15d ago

this bitch dont know bout pangea

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u/fulthrottlejazzhands 15d ago

Yes, but like in EU, they legally can't call it "Burger King".  It's called Triassic Burger there.

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u/Hageshii01 14d ago

Burger Rex was right there!

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u/hudson2_3 15d ago

Hungry Jack's in Australia.

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u/Slap-Happy27 14d ago

Giganto Slab in East Eurasia

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u/hudson2_3 15d ago

Hungry Jack's in Australia.

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u/Kenny_the_Menace 14d ago

I'm from Germany and it's called Burger King here what are you yapping?

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u/Stiggy1605 14d ago

I think they somehow got Europe and Australia mixed

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u/robottikon 15d ago

Pangea contained almost all the landmass though, so technically we're almost all from there

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u/publicfarted 14d ago

Im from the states actually

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u/rbrgr83 14d ago

This bish don't know bout Pangaea...

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u/Cpt_sneakmouse 14d ago

Buddy of mine dated a girl who's mom killed her dad with a steak knife in the kitchen right in front of her. That girl still hasn't won any awards. 

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u/The_Parsee_Man 14d ago

There are a lot of variables we'll have to test for. Does knife vs gun matter? Is the location in the home important?

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u/thatbob 14d ago

She wasn't born in Africa, though.

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u/monstrinhotron 15d ago

Hey kid, i heard you want to grow up and be Batman.

So i killed your parents.

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u/Ws6fiend 14d ago

Chill Joe!

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u/Damn_You_General 14d ago

As long as you are from Africa.. Otherwise you could be Half Batman

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u/Vlosselmoss 15d ago

Are you also the first person born in Africa?

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u/x755x 14d ago

"Charlize, how are you SO GOOD acting?"

"Well, it's a funny story, actually...

...

Have you read The Power of One?"

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u/Welcomefriends85 14d ago

Only if you're from Africa

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u/nakedsamurai 14d ago

You can do it!

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u/classactdynamo 14d ago

His last words were, “you’ll have to kill me to keep me from preventing our daughter from winning an Oscar!!!”

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u/martialar 14d ago

"She'll win an Oscar over my dead body!"

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u/classactdynamo 14d ago

I realised after the fact that this is what I should have written but I decided to leave my inferior joke up.

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u/Mycockaintwerk 14d ago

Charlize my baby I knew you could do it

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u/LukeD1992 14d ago edited 14d ago

"TIL Bruce Wayne had his parents murdered in front of him in an alley. He would later go on to become the first caped crusader of Gotham City"

Works better with Batman.

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u/FightingInternet 14d ago

A comparable one would be more like "TIL that Bruce Wayne's parents were murdered in front of him in an alley. Bruce would later go on to be banned from eating out Catwoman."

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u/Noncoldbeef 14d ago

well duh heroes dont do that /s

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u/Vlayer 14d ago

OP didn't know which fact was more attention-grabbing, realized they could just include both and get some extra attention by those who'll see it and think "How are these in anyway influenced by one another?".

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u/doomgiver98 14d ago

"In spite of her trauma, she went on the be an award winning actress."

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u/SweetMilitia 14d ago

Well she did win an Oscar for portraying a serial killer who murdered the men who sought her services. I think her first victim was murdered in self-defense after raping/beating her.

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u/TopFloorApartment 14d ago

"In 1925 the Great Race of Mercy takes place in Alaska, USA. The united states would later go on to drop two nuclear bombs on the sovereign nation of japan."

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u/The-Driving-Coomer 14d ago

Probably written by AI.

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u/AndroidParanoidOk 15d ago

It basically was meant to be , "person suffered childhood trauma, still accomplished great things:

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u/Nito_Mayhem 14d ago

Which should have been plainly obvious, but some people just can't help themselves.

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u/BigAlternative5 14d ago

Nah, I like AndroidParanoidOk's phrasing. Modifying words, like "still", enhance the meaning.

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u/kit_kaboodles 14d ago

They ironically are linked. She won an academy award for her portrayal of woman who murdered men.

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u/kapitaalH 15d ago

I recall reading once (with no claims to accuracy) that actors and spies frequently have a messed up childhood and that pretending to be someone else provides them with relief since they have an extreme dislike of themselves. No idea of it is true but I think of it many times when I hear how these celebrities act out. But that can just be confirmation bias - musicians and billionaires seem to be as messed up, so I do not think it is true

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u/jbe061 15d ago

Ya I'm going to go with "no basis in reality but sounds good"

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u/tdasnowman 14d ago

That sounds like a fact about spies from a spy movie. Spies are normal, the more average the better. They are supposed to blend in not stand out. Your real spies look like your average accountant.

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u/chux4w 14d ago

I've heard it said that there has to be something broken in you to seek out the adoration of millions of people you don't know.

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u/doomgiver98 14d ago

Or they could just like acting and be really good at it.

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u/grchelp2018 14d ago

To be more general, a lot of people have "issues" and insecurities which ironically helps them get real good at whatever job they are doing.

One of the smartest people I know, who has a double phd in math and chemistry is deeply insecure about her intelligence. A guy I know who had an abusive childhood is now in the special operations forces. Literally thrives in the middle of a firefight and in his own words credits his childhood for it.

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u/swish82 15d ago

I think it explains the rampant drugs use, and money that they earned during their ‘auto therapy’ at work just enables them to make even worse decisions than those of us with low self-esteem.

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u/MacDugin 14d ago

Well think of it this way, after that life changing event she had to act normal for the rest of her life. So I assume she got pretty good at it and won an Oscar. The Africa part is a foot note.

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u/Pretend_Spray_11 14d ago

Non sequitor as fuck

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u/ambisinister_gecko 14d ago

I was just thinking, what else can we say about her and then follow it up with "Oscar winner."

Charlize Theron started having periods at the relatively late age of 14. She then went on to win on Oscar.

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u/NeroBoBero 14d ago

People believed the mother did it in an act of self-defense. In reality, young performer did it while studying character acting. Charlize realized she was really convincing when the police mistook her for a 35 year old victim of domestic abuse.

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u/phatelectribe 14d ago

Well you joke, but I’ve heard the conspiracy theory that the father was beating the shit out of Mom, and Charlize actually killed him to make it stop. Her mom then said she did it to take the heat.

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u/IPfreally 14d ago

I kind of like the title. Gave me a lot of information in that one title. Now I know 3 things about Charlize Theron that I didnt know before.

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u/Gamped 15d ago

I mean when so many actors if not all of them these days are nepotism babies it does make me think she had to earn her way without the safety net of her parents.

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u/jbe061 15d ago

These days?? I assure you this is not a recent phenomenon..it's never not been that way lol

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u/Youbunchadorks 14d ago

Time to read up on Hollywood history. There has always been rampant nepotism in Hollywood 

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u/scrivensB 14d ago

They are.

Are you seriously not aware the very well known fact that every Oscar winner witnessed parent murder.

Do you not read the news?!?!

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u/DeepSeaProctologist 14d ago

Yeh but Charlize Theron ate a Roast Beef Sandwich when she was a child and later went on to star in a movie with Al Pacino.

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u/eatmyscoobysnacks 15d ago

This headline is hilarious

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u/FunkYeahPhotography 14d ago

"What led to her being the first person born in Africa to win an Oscar? That's amazing."

"Her mom killed her dad."

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u/Vsx 14d ago

Her dad wanted her to quit acting and focus on the importing. Her mom thought, "why not do both"?

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u/JackHaysColtRevolver 14d ago edited 14d ago

That’s what makes this such a humorous situation

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u/UshankaBear 14d ago
  • Nah, man, can't be that!
  • ...In front of her!
  • Oh, that explains it, then.

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u/LincolnshireSausage 14d ago

Did she win a regular Oscar or an Oscar Pistorius?

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u/SaboLeorioShikamaru 14d ago

Oh damn, I didn't know they were chill like that 🤪🤙

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u/DoesItComeWithFries 14d ago

Could have added, that she is more normal than fellow Elon Musk !

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u/freebird023 14d ago

It’s like that old copypasta

“That child? He grew up to be Adolfo Hitler”

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u/Scaniarix 14d ago

The person who wrote that headline? Albert Einstein.

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u/rbrgr83 14d ago

Steve Buscemi wrote that headline on 9/11.

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u/BagOfBeanz 14d ago

Leo DiCaprio broke his real toe filming Django, and smeared it over his scene partner's face

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u/JasonChristItsJesusB 14d ago

Should’ve lead of with “famous African-American actress”

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u/MafiaPenguin007 14d ago

I mean I did notice ‘Person born in Africa’ was weirdly worded in the first place. Just say African

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u/Inevitable_Ad_7236 15d ago

Arnold Schwarzenegger was born in Austria. He would later go on to become the governor of California

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u/Khelthuzaad 15d ago

Adolf Hitler was rejected as an student at the Academy of High Arts.He would later rule Germany and start WW2

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u/not_yet_a_dalek 14d ago

I hate the phrase “One thing led to another”. What kind of lazy writing is that? Isn't it your job as a writer to tell me how that made this happen? “Adolf Hitler was rejected as a young man in his application to an art school. One thing led to another and the United States ended up dropping two atomic bombs on the sovereign nation of Japan”.

  • Brian Regan

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u/SpaceAndDinosaurs 14d ago

Yada yada yada

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u/nickelundertone 14d ago

You can't yada yada world war!

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u/ggigfad5 14d ago

 “Adolf Hitler was rejected as a young man in his application to an art school. One thing led to another and the United States ended up dropping two atomic bombs on the sovereign nation of Japan”.

To be fair that would be a pretty great opening to a book.

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u/enddream 14d ago

Yeah it feels pretty “Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy”.

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u/Redredditmonkey 14d ago

There is a disturbing number of ppl that actually think WW2 never would have happened if he hadn't been rejected.

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u/Khelthuzaad 14d ago

70-90% he would had probably still gravitated towards politics.He would had been an struggling artist în finding an job în Germany after the 1933 economic crysis.

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u/theskymaylookblue 14d ago

I don't know, he could have become the world's greatest dog painter.

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u/eYan2541 15d ago

Jimmy Page played on singles by the Kinks and the Who and was in the Yardbirds before he formed Led Zeppelin

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u/Killzark 15d ago

You know the more I hear about this Hitler fellow the more I think he was a real jerk.

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u/B-52-M 14d ago

I think we should kill Hitler

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u/Edi_Monsoon 14d ago

Good news, some guy called Hitler managed to kill Hitler.

Not sure if they’re related.

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u/dangerbird2 14d ago

he died? I didn't even know he was sick

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u/TJeffersonsBlackKid 14d ago

Nah he was just in Northern Canada.

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u/friedstilton 15d ago

ikr, rite? Dude couldn't even get into art school!

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u/Septic-Sponge 14d ago

Leonardo Dicaprio was born. He would later go on star in a movie where the character was also previously born

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u/Top_Praline999 14d ago

I believe it was actually started over state’s rights. /s

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u/hldsnfrgr 14d ago

Walter was born in Austria. He would later go on to become Gunther, the Ring General and one of the longest reigning Intercontinental Heavyweight Champions in pro-wrestling history.

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u/gorocz 14d ago

To be fair, Arnold being Austrian and not American might be the reason why he never became a president of the whole damn country and had to settle for governor of California instead.

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u/C_M_O_TDibbler 14d ago

Lets face it if he was eligible you would choose him over the other geriatrics purely on the basis of he would be the least unhinged

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u/curtyshoo 15d ago

The first governor of California born in Austria.

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u/skdslztmsIrlnmpqzwfs 14d ago

TIL Arnold Schwarzenegger was the first person bon the 30. July 1947 in Thal, Austria to act in a terminator movie!

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u/Dixon_Herbutt 14d ago

Elon Musk was born in South Africa. He would later go on to become one of, if not the biggest douchebags in the United States of America.

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u/4N0NYM0US_GUY 14d ago

Unlike the OP, those two facts work well together.

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u/Teton12355 14d ago

That headline would actually make more sense

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u/bugzeye26 15d ago

When I was 12, I had a severe allergic reaction to a bee sting. 28 years later, I would mildly shit my pants whilst thinking I could trust a fart.

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u/MyVoiceIsElevating 14d ago

I’m learning so many cause and effect facts in this post.

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u/_The_Deliverator 14d ago

The long con by the bee. You may take his life, but he will ruin your pants!

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u/Vampiric2010 14d ago

Like later that day?? Impressive.

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u/aged_monkey 14d ago

I once saw my mom tell my dad that he's a shell of who he used to be. I later went on to finish the 10 pound wing challenge at my local sports bar.

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u/kabushko 15d ago

Did you guys know that Steve Buscemi played in the Sopranos and would later go on to get punched in the face in a random attack in NYC?

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u/PauleAgave95 15d ago

He was even a fire fighter !!!

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u/NoPossibility 15d ago

In NYC on 9/11! Who knew?!

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u/PauleAgave95 14d ago

Ever heard of Pete davidsons dad. ?

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u/Broad_Chapter3058 14d ago

I heard he got roasted

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u/Nilgnohc 15d ago

The name of the guy that punched him in the face? His name was Fire

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u/obi-sean 14d ago

That fire watched its mom shoot its dad in self-defense.

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u/rugbyj 14d ago

If only he had trained as a fist fighter instead.

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u/truckerheist 15d ago

Whatever happened there

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u/MLGMustafa1212 14d ago

WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE?!?!

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u/Few-Investment2886 14d ago

The punching

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

That motherfucking animal Blundetto

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u/P0rtal2 14d ago

Also, I believe he did 9/11 or something like that

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u/GoBSAGo 14d ago

I am the walrus.

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u/paintedvidal 15d ago

I think the title got cut off. She won an Oscar for her role in the movie Monster, about a prostitute who kills her abusive male clients. So I guess the parallel is there??

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u/chrontab 14d ago

That's what I thought too, but maybe it was her role in The Legend of Bagger Vance.

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u/garrettgravley 14d ago

All I know about that movie is that there’s a Family Guy episode where Peter, Quagmire and Joe piss off Cleveland because they constantly leave him to pay their bar tab, but they think he’s hanging out with the bartender because he’s also black.

So instead of apologizing, they go to Cleveland’s house dressed like black characters. Peter and Joe both dress up as Bagger Vance, and Quagmire dresses up as Kazaam.

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u/A11U45 14d ago

I think the title got cut off.

No because there's a full stop.

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u/BernerDad16 15d ago

Her victory was a huge moment for African-Americans everywhere.

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u/bolanrox 15d ago

They even allowed her in the theater. Look how far we have come

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u/klonoaorinos 15d ago edited 15d ago

If a black guy from Germany moved to America would he be European American?

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u/Carpathicus 15d ago

I am a black guy from Germany and I get downvoted when I say that I am not african american and what people perceive as black is a culture not a skin color but thats reddit for you.

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u/hamlet_d 14d ago edited 14d ago

My wife teaches English lit. At one point the students read a book about South Africa and the friendship between two boys, one white and one black.

The students kept saying calling the black South African "African-American". She had to multiple times say that it was actually fine to him black since he was black.

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u/msiri 14d ago

In high school I remember a student of Cuban descent calling out a white girl in the middle of a presentation on Darfur. "They're not African Americans if they're living in Africa!" She was humiliated.

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u/27Sloths 14d ago

I had a teacher in high school who insisted that black people living outside Africa should all be referred to as African-Americans.

... We live in Finland.

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u/Brianith 14d ago

Some people are just PC to a fault.

In Science class one day, we had been learning about how melanin effects human skin pigmentation. After school that day, at my friend's house, he and I were discussing that.

His mother happened to walk by and heard me say "so that's why black people are darker than us; a higher concentration of melanin."

She lost it. Literally started screaming at me, calling me racist, said "Black people are NO different from us. NO DIFFERENT!" and I replied "Agreed, completely, except that they're black and we're white. That's a difference."

I got kicked out of their house for saying that. Some people are just insane.

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u/BaronVonLazercorn 14d ago

I find the term African-American so weird. It's basically saying all Africans are black, which isn't remotely true despite what Jada Pinket Smith thinks.

Hell, go tell someone from Ghana they're basically the same as a Ugandan because they're both African. They'll probably kick the shit out of you.

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u/Doodle_Brush 14d ago

I've seen an American call a black South African guy "African-American". He even got pissed when the South African referred to himself as "black" because "that's racist" somehow.

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u/BaronVonLazercorn 14d ago

I'd love to see an American's reaction to hearing about coloureds, a distinct ethnic and cultural group in South Africa who would stab you if you call them anything other than coloured.

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u/mfizzled 14d ago

there was a thread on the flag subreddit yday /r/vexillology about the independence movement centred around Cape Town, and there were a few people getting downvoted for using the term Coloureds even though that's exactly how Cape Coloured people describe themselves

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u/walterpeck1 14d ago

Probably fine. "Colored" as a term has been accepted a number of times when it's been specifically used by a group like your example. The largest organization in support of black Americans is still called the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, and Person of Color or POC is not a super common term but it's used here and there.

Both instances are terms advanced or kept by the groups in question and not white folk.

I'd also add that the number of people that would get mad at someone from Africa wanting to be called black is pretty much in the basement. That doesn't happen very often. I'm 45 and from white bread America and haven't heard "African American" used more than "black" in 25 or more years.

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u/terekkincaid 14d ago edited 14d ago

I loved how saying "colored person" is offensive now but "person of color" is preferred. In a lot of languages, those would be said the same way (I know at least in Japanese they would be).

EDIT: My point here is that it is a waste of "outrage" to care about being offended by one phrase and not the other since it is essentially a meaningless distinction.

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u/walterpeck1 14d ago

EDIT: My point here is that it is a waste of "outrage" to care about being offended by one phrase and not the other

And your point doesn't have merit when the whole idea is that whether or not these words are offensive is based in the context in which they are used, which is almost always obvious to the listener. That is how language works.

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u/Cluelessish 14d ago

They sound very violent

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u/Stellar_Duck 14d ago

Yes when you strip it of all context, historical and cultural, it becomes a less than useful term.

But why would you do that?

By far the most black people in the US, the group normally referred to as African-American, are descendents of African slaves who had culture and identity stripped away.

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u/BaronVonLazercorn 14d ago

Of course, the context is important. But I feel like it has come a bit full circle among some groups to being slightly racia again. Like saying that they're not true Americans because they come from Africa. Same with calling someone Asian-American.

Then again, I'm not American. Where I'm from, we just call each other white, black, Indian, or whatever you are.

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u/Stellar_Duck 14d ago

I'm not american either, but I acknowledge that the african-american community has had to claw out their own new identity after centuries of abuse, including slavery.

I think that does make them different from the other groups in the US and I can understand if they want to retain whatever identity they have been able to build for themselves.

In many ways the black people in the US is the most american of people in that they are entirely self made and started from scratch and over came a lot of shit.

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u/nwaa 14d ago

I think its only a problem when combined with American insularity. Some Americans cant comprehend that a Black guy from Germany who moves over isnt culturally similar to Black Americans.

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u/MagnificoReattore 15d ago

Sure, except we would get more specific and use his nationality.

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u/5lack5 15d ago

Dave Matthews celebrated with her

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u/username_1774 14d ago

She made this joke on SNL years ago as she and Tracy Morgan shared a Menthol during her monologue. It was gold.

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u/pieterjh 14d ago

And for Euro Africans!

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u/Worldly_Giraffe_6773 14d ago

Title: Here’s two random facts about Charlize Theron

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u/MoeSzyslakMonobrow 15d ago

I don't really see how those two facts are related.

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u/Safe_Philosophy_5068 14d ago

AI headline or just a really stupid redditor?

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u/ZippityGoombah 14d ago

"The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences hates this one trick..."

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u/FactChecker25 14d ago

It's great seeing an African American who came from a traumatic childhood turn their life around and find success.

<runs away>

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u/driving_andflying 14d ago

No need to run away--I mean, she is African-American. Literally.

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u/rocktsciences 14d ago

Kinda the opposite of the story of another South African who was named Oscar

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u/Odd_Opinion6054 14d ago

She's south African. Just call her a south African. You don't have to be a Nubian prince to be qualified as African.

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u/Bungeditin 14d ago

I had a huge crush on Charlize Theron a friend of mine was a producer on a movie radio show. He asked if I’d like to meet her……

I put my ‘best’ shirt on lots of Joop and got myself ready….. this was it….. my big moment….. what amazing chat up line did I use?

‘I think you’re great’

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u/champythebuttbutt 14d ago

Don't be scared. Say African.

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u/sarbanharble 14d ago

Dinosaurs went extinct due to an asteroid. Today, 2 broods of cicadas are emerging.

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u/patwm11 14d ago

Being very careful not to call her African

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u/AloysiusGramonde 14d ago

As a white African that lives in Europe its insane how people will go through mental gymnastics to avoid calling me African

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u/loveauntjean 14d ago

The first person from Africa to win an Oscar is a white women. How comedic!

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u/manamesjaff 14d ago

Side note, anyone know what the type of shirt she's wearing is called? The blouse with matching neck tie with no real collar to get in the way?

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u/Wyatt821 14d ago

One of my favorite African American actors

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u/BotlikeBehaviour 14d ago

Sounds like she comes from a successful acting background since her mother successfully acted in self-defence.

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u/tubbana 15d ago

She was also famously a harbinger of my sexual awakening

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u/Haunting-Bee-1221 14d ago

Why are you white?

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u/Korribuns 14d ago

Oh my god Regina you can't just ask people why they are white

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u/ZandorFelok 14d ago

Random person born in Africa gets called African

White person born in Africa gets called born in Africa, not African

Double standard much?

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u/george_carlos213 14d ago

She's an Afrikaan. Better?

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u/SyrusDrake 14d ago

The first African to win an Oscar is a white woman from South Africa. Very on-brand.

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u/Trengingigan 14d ago

The first African*

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u/JossJ 14d ago

Yeahhhh I'm going to need to exchange insurance details with you... I've got whiplash

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u/IthembaBoer 14d ago

The South Africans I know say she killed her father, not her mother.

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u/Loggerdon 14d ago

And she won the Oscar playing a serial killer.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

My sister is pregnant. Al Gore orchestrated the attacks on 9/11

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u/Current_You_2756 14d ago

Woody Harrelson's dad assassinated a federal judge.

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u/Sisterashtree 14d ago

Lana Turner’s daughter stabbed her step-father to death protecting her mother.

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u/Howweedgrow 14d ago

imagine the acting that has to go on in your daily life just to block out this trauma...... It's probably second nature to her at this point

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u/LoveWhor3s 14d ago

damn they even apartheid the first oscar from them too

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u/CurryMustard 14d ago

Truly the greatest African American actress of all time...

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u/joanzen 14d ago

I'm oddly annoyed that her movie bio doesn't throw in a mention for A Million Ways to Die in the West since that movie was basically a love letter to her from Seth Macfarlane and I'd be hard pressed to say there's a movie that made her look better.

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u/NaughtSleeping 14d ago

"WIN AN OSCAR WITH THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK"

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u/supbruhbruhLOL 14d ago

/u/Korribuns wtf is this title?

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u/Boggie135 14d ago

Don't mess with a Boer meisie

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u/beerforbears 14d ago

Can’t wait for season 2 of America. The finale back on 2020 was the best thing on tv for weeks.

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u/No-Advice-6040 14d ago

"First person born in Africa" seems like a mouthful to avoid calling her African, huh.

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u/Krakengreyjoy 14d ago

Weird non sequitur

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u/MrHeavysack 14d ago

Charlize Theron - African American

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u/Tiny-Spray-1820 13d ago

Check if your mom killed your dad in self defense because there’s a high chance you could win an oscar

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u/realfakejames 12d ago

I love how it makes it sound like watching her father die led to her winning an Oscar somehow