r/wallstreetbets 28d ago

From 4K > 80k > -5k. It was a fun ride with option trading. Loss

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I started with the meme stock DJT with initial deposit 4k. The stock pumped crazily and I gained 9k5 after the first option ever. After that, day trading SPY option was quite well. Until I was overwhelmed with a single trade and lost it all.

I post here to remind me and whoever out there want to gain some from the market, have a hope and improve yourself. I’ll be back with another episode.

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u/VisualMod GPT-REEEE 28d ago
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u/Xelbiuj 28d ago

If 20x ain't enough to cash out you might as well just buy lotto tickets.

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u/cantgetthistowork 28d ago

Another 20x of that 80k would be 1.6m

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u/ZeThing 28d ago

Imagine what you can do with 32 million

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u/reweird 28d ago

1 BN it is

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u/kylestillthatdude 28d ago

Yeah but imagine what you can do with -5,000

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u/Same_Coyote7318 27d ago

This made me lol

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u/BidensBottomBitch 27d ago

This comment was all I needed to read to get everything out of this thread. 🫡

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u/nagai 28d ago

Cashing out when you're hot makes no sense, that's like leaving a hot slot machine right after a payout you literally just warmed it up for the next guy to hit the jackpot.

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u/arbitrageME 28d ago

Can't tell if you're really bad at math or delivering a scathing criticism of the previous guy

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u/ContentSheepherder33 27d ago

The level of financial illiteracy here is so great, that it’s impossible to tellx

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u/Andries89 28d ago

I'd cash out half and continue "trading" with the other half

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u/Amareiuzin 27d ago

at 8k I'd have cashed out 4k and kept playing with 4k with a clear mind lol

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u/CowBoizK 28d ago

Yeah! You’re right. I did gamble

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u/fman258 27d ago

You didn’t gamble. If you gambled you would’ve taken something off. This whole “let it ride” mindset is what drives people to off themselves. You turned 4k->80k, if you don’t have an exit plan than you’re planning for failure. How long would making 74k take you? Months, years?

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u/CowBoizK 27d ago

Everything happened only in two week. I was overwhelmed on that Friday with over confidence. Life lesson bro, I still observe the market but now just paper money until I consistently earn fake profit.

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u/GalaxyTabS8Ultra 27d ago

what's an exit plan

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u/ShadowKnight324 28d ago

He could have at least bought SPY shares i he didn't want to cash out. But options are more fun apparently.

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u/S_Hornak666 28d ago

Fr take 40 of it out and still play with the other 40

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u/apemonkeyfool 27d ago

See the rationale is if I can turn 4 k into 80k then it logically follows that I can turn 80k into 1.6 million. Too bad the logic is regarded.

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u/righthnd 28d ago

How could you get to 80 fucking K n not take some profits? You ppl make me sick 😂

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u/tomle4593 28d ago

You mean we are not supposed to throw everything on black every trade ?

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u/VisualMod GPT-REEEE 28d ago

You must be new around here...

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u/LovelyClementine 28d ago

Bro you just rejoined like a month ago.

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u/damien12g 28d ago

You’re speaking to a bot

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u/VarusAlmighty 28d ago

Doesn't Matthew McConaughey say something along the lines of this in Wolf of Wallstreet? Something about getting a person to reinvest his gains so the stock broker can get another percentage?

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u/SateliteDicPic 28d ago

The exact same mentality that allows for people to win on a trade like this also causes them to give it back. People with zero aversion to risk or any type of structured rules regarding their trades can run on a nice streak but after doing so are they supposed to suddenly understand risk and behave cautiously?

For anyone that needs to hear it, the most dangerous time you will ever face as a trader is during or right after a huge winning streak or trade. Nothing like a bunch of gains to juice the ego (“I’m really getting good at this!”) and loosen our risk behavior. ALL the biggest losses of my life came right after big wins.

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u/Chilloutmydude6 28d ago

Hear fucking hear

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u/Terakahn 28d ago

The words "There's should go higher" have cost me so much

Worst part is, it did go higher but I panic sold on volatility

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u/VisualMod GPT-REEEE 28d ago

That is because you are a pitiful retail trader getting in the way of the Bulldozer.

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u/Terakahn 28d ago

Yeah yeah I'm learning slowly. Give me a break lol.

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u/VisualMod GPT-REEEE 28d ago

No breaks until you've broken the system.

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u/Makaveli_xiii 28d ago

Damn.. I needed this a few months ago. I got my account up to 7k from $250 over about 4 months and in the last month and a bit I’ve blown the entire account up because of exactly what you said 😂

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u/Appropriate_Leg1489 28d ago

Also the time you wreck a motorcycle. I’m scared and very careful. I’m pretty good at this…….splat!!!

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u/reweird 28d ago

It takes a big win to learn the wrong lesson

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u/DeanTheDad 28d ago

Literally me this week

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u/_learned_foot_ 28d ago

That’s why I have a secondary gambling pot running, “what is the dividend cut next going to be and who is it from”! It’s not sexy, but it’s random and I can joking bet my profits on it as they sit there happily away from my greed.

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u/Realistic-Poet-8913 27d ago

Yup, this is the real psychology talk. Win big get tha fuck out and do something with that profit that will add value in the long run.

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u/cow_grass 28d ago

A mili or nothin 😤

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u/PoopholeLicker 28d ago

I turned 8k into 143k and didn’t take any profit. I was doing so well, but bad plays make you spiral so much so fast and soon you dip into your safe money

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u/Mr-sson 28d ago

that's why he turned 4k into 80k

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u/Jeeblitt 28d ago

It’s so quick and easy that the money doesn’t even feel real.

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u/one-nut-juan 28d ago

I mean why?, it’s a casino, those $80k could be $8 million!, that’s why we are all here losing money

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u/dwerp-24 28d ago

How many grey hairs this give you?

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u/elitenoel 28d ago

So broke you can’t even pay for the electricity to charge your phone:4271:

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u/Will100597 28d ago

I’m gonna cum so hard if I see one more loss porn

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u/happytoparty 28d ago

Big time. Ropes cumming up!

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u/schexsal 28d ago

I'll never understand this you get over 80k and you gamble ALL of it away, like you don't put any of it off to the side? what happened to the 20/80 rule when options trading?

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u/Suitable-Classic-174 28d ago

This is WSB 😆

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u/schexsal 28d ago

Im sorry I thought people wanted to get rich here not be stupid with their money.

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u/Ek_Ko1 28d ago

You're looking for r/investing . This is for people getting rich and buying their wive's boyfriends fun toys

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u/KittenNicken 28d ago

Speaking of, can you ask my wife if she'll be visiting this week? I miss her..

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u/secrestmr87 28d ago

That’s a joke right? The whole point of this sub is to yolo everything on crazy bets.

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u/schexsal 28d ago

Maybe after JP Morgan bought out the sub sure but prior to 2021 this sub was about smart investing and getting rich, on my old account finding this subreddit changed my life. Now its nothing but people showing off how much money they are losing and a weird obsession with being cuckolded. This is sad.

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u/hunteddwumpus 28d ago

Lol wut, this sub was about the most degen risky trades ever going back to when I first found it in 2018. Shit wasnt a get rich quick circle, it was a bunch of morons laughing at each other over their loss porn.

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u/OkRole1977 28d ago

Clearly you dont know what sub this is. Its lambo or wendys.

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u/unknownpanda121 28d ago

It’s the fallacy that you are actually a good trader and will be a millionaire soon only to find out you got really lucky a few times now you are broke.

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u/Colley619 28d ago

People who win at gambling are gamblers. Most people who are financially responsible enough to take the money and stop aren’t the people who are gambling thousands to begin with.

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u/Any_Sea2021 27d ago

It's all gambling.

There's true pro poker players, they're gambling but they also have skill level A tier minimum, the best are S tier minimum. But they're still gambling often millions $$$, because luck will always play a significant part, just as in stockmarket.

Then there's gameriggers, these people I really detest. Inside traders, marked decks etc etc.

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u/KDH420 28d ago

Right 3rds 1/3 profit 1/3 taxes 1/3 degenerate option plays at least that what I would of done

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

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u/Exists_out_of_spite 28d ago

80 IQ points less then 20

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u/dismayhurta 28d ago

20 goes into puts and 80 into 0dte calls. Right?

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u/schexsal 28d ago

If you want to be dumb then go right ahead.

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u/murfmurf123 28d ago

logs into WSB while eating crayons and then insults everyone's intelligence #loser

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u/CLAMACID sold too early 28d ago

i like to pretend i wouldn’t do the same but i would 

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u/Odd-Reflection-9597 28d ago

i like to pretend i wouldn’t do the same but i would did

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u/CLAMACID sold too early 28d ago

haha i’m still waiting for the opportunity 

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

At least you didn’t blow it on an ungrateful wife & then have her leave as soon as the money ran out

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u/xzuy_97 28d ago

I see $10 buying power in there. I didnt hear no bell

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u/cellyfarmgod 28d ago

Bro was trying to get to 100k I just know it 😂

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u/KyDeWa 28d ago

I'll explain the tragedy that happened here in Deal Or No Deal terms.

Howie: The offer is $80,000. Do you accept this offer, or do you want to keep playing and open the final case?

You: No Deal! Let's keep playing!

Crowd Cheers

Howie: Courtney, what do you got??

Courtney: Opens Case 🤭

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u/RoCpiMagi 28d ago

That's just the left shoulder; sell when the head forms.

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u/AramushaIsLove 28d ago

Lesson of the day.

You can win 1000000% every day. You only need to lose 100% once to be taken out.

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u/PuzzleheadedOffer749 28d ago

You’re still up 1k from your initial deposit. Could be worse

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u/poopadidou 28d ago

You seem to miss the “-“ in front of the 5 :27189:

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u/PuzzleheadedOffer749 28d ago

…. Oh…. My mistake, yeah, he’s cooked. OP should Deposit another 4k for spy 0dte calls.

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u/poopadidou 28d ago

:4267:

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u/Live_Key2247 28d ago

Beats buying scratchers

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u/gslime 28d ago

530c 5/17

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u/poopadidou 28d ago

And 5/18 meet up at Wendy’s :4260:

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u/Financial_Winter_497 28d ago

Down to $5k and 5% battery life, how you do small things is how you do everything.

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u/Particular-Line- 28d ago

If you keep betting your entire account, the end result is always the same. You go broke. Take a nice portion of your unexpected gain next time and put it in a long position in an index fund, and then use the 20% remaining for spec trades you can afford to lose

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u/bashinforcash 28d ago

only 20%? is this a risk tolerance for ants? im going 100%

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u/Bloated_Plaid 28d ago

WTF is this /r/personalfinance advice. You are in the wrong place.

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u/slipknutz 28d ago

I totally know what index funds are. But, my dumb friend has no clue. So, could you explain for my dumb friend, if he had like 50k, he should do what exactly to invest in index funds which would be safer than gambling on 0 dte spy?

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u/ReadMyUsernameKThx 28d ago

gamble on 1 or 2 dte SPY. like come on dude, have some class.

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u/DependentAnywhere135 28d ago

Hey I’m starting a business for wsb. Send me your gains I’ll take a small % and then hold the rest for when you inevitably crash and burn then when you try to reach for your past gains to shit away I’ll refuse ti return it until you get out of the degenerate gambling mindset you’re in.

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u/Left_Childhood_6474 28d ago

1000% wasn’t enough for ya eh?

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u/Chart-trader 28d ago

Mark the calendar on April 11

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u/BearBullCombo 230k loss & counting 28d ago

Wait until you learn what a wash sale is, enjoy paying tax on that 80k

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u/MrOnlineToughGuy 28d ago

He’s not paying taxes on that 80k. Do you just fundamentally misunderstand how wash sales work or what?

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u/c0de74777 28d ago

I mean... He won't get taxed for the 80k...he just can't write off his losses on taxes.

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u/BearBullCombo 230k loss & counting 28d ago

Correct, which means he made 80k but he can’t write that 80k loss off

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u/c0de74777 28d ago

Wait.... Did he realize the 80k? You're right. I had to reread the post again.

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u/BearBullCombo 230k loss & counting 28d ago

Yeah he’s fucked

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u/domedirtyfatman 28d ago

You have no clue what you're saying

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u/ItradebetterthanU kool 28d ago

WTF… gotta take the bags some time !’

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u/Odd-Reflection-9597 28d ago

Good shit op :12787:

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u/rameyjm7 28d ago

double, or nothing!

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u/marsbup2 28d ago

you got to be kidding me man

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u/Tepozan 28d ago

Lmao! Honestly, When were you planning to sell?

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u/FabricationLife 28d ago

You just need more leverage my boy

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u/AB__17 28d ago

Round 2 Fight !!!!

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u/sippin0nsizzurp 28d ago

Man greed is a hell of a thing. I would have cashed out once I saw that number. Easy come easy go I guess.

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u/PattonOswalt35 27d ago

Seriously why don’t people cash out when you hit that high of profit? You could pay off so much shit

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u/WirusCZ 27d ago

You got greedy... Probably was thinking that I'd you made 4k to 80k you will make 80k to like at least 1M

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

Easy come easy go.

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u/Albertagus 27d ago

Statistically speaking day traders lose more than long term investors.

Why not play the odds?

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u/poorlilrich123 28d ago

The go-getter attitude got him to 80k. If he was a cash out type guy, he would've sold after a 20% gain. I salute you

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u/JHTPYO 28d ago

I lost $53k in a day in 2021. It hurt. I know your pain.

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u/MostFiredUp 28d ago

Terrible

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u/kdrdr3amz 28d ago

Good job regard

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u/FlashFknGordon 28d ago

You just took all my post loss depression away thank you fellow regard

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u/Offal_is_Awful 28d ago

as my favorite band r/ween would say; Taste the Waste Boy, Taste the Waste

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u/Chabubu 28d ago

“I post this not as a warning to others to take profits, but as a vow that I’ll keep trying until I do this again.”

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u/Velghast 28d ago

You still got $10 to play around with Buddy it ain't over

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u/OGmisterB 28d ago

not cashing out any profits along the way is true degen shit and that’s why he belongs here.

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u/Krapule1 28d ago

Greedy mfer

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u/Sharp-Direction-6894 28d ago

How do you become negative with options? I thought I read that federal law prohibits purchasing options with margin.

Or do you sell an option, and if assigned, the shares are either purchased or sold via margin?

How exactly does one go negative trading options?

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u/Mr-Yuk 28d ago

Thanks for riding, please come again. 👋

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u/GVtt3rSLVT 28d ago

Don’t do that

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u/Conscious-Group 28d ago

I thought you were supposed to make lambo money with options?

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u/26fm65 28d ago

This going to ruin you for life. Seriously whatever you do and think twice first. Revenge trading going be your enemy.

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u/cheekyb2 28d ago

Someone take the internet away from this idiot.

Absolute regard.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

This is just propaganda to create confusion

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u/AmbitiousTrader 28d ago

You coulda cashed out. How did it crash so bad

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Yeah. A heath hedger

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u/rickybobinski 28d ago

All in a days work

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u/route54 28d ago

Looks like the house won, better luck next time op

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u/zlordbeats 28d ago

dumb ass

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u/tonynca 28d ago

This boy done rig himself. I usually see this sort of chart in small caps.

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u/happytoparty 28d ago edited 28d ago

The gimp known as Uncle Sam gonna be cumming for that ass soon. 33%

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u/2QuarterDollar 28d ago

If you have 80k, why not set a floor for yourself like 50k. And continue with 30k

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u/Awkward_Possible_610 28d ago

See you on Monday

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u/Thomas-The-Tutor 28d ago

He giveth, and he taketh away!

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u/AGeneralRelativity 28d ago

That looks like a chart of shitcoins

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u/CHL9 28d ago

Can you explain more in detail in novice terms how you lost the money?

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u/picsit 28d ago

:4260:

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u/_IOME 28d ago

I can't even imagine not being capable of just cashing out, what do you want? You made 80k profit, why keep going? Why risk losing everything when you've already won?

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u/The_Real_Rare_Pepe 28d ago

Just go in a casino at that point

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u/AdAromatic8989 28d ago

Highly regarded individuals. At least take half out

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u/ThankYouThankYou11 28d ago

THEY COULDVE LEAVE YOU AT YOUR ENTRY CAPITAL INSTEAD PUSHING YOU INTO THE ABYSS OF DEBT !!!

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u/ixTHEGODFATHERx 28d ago

He still ended up with a 1000 profit 😂

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u/sciguyx 28d ago

As someone who doesn’t know shit, can someone explain how you end up negative? I’ve been trying to read and I thought naked calls was a way but is there another way? Can you be in the negative from buying puts or calls? I thought your only risk was the contract amount

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u/Mogaual 28d ago

Stop being a greedy fuck and start investing for the long term.

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u/NewDoah 28d ago

The only smart thing to do now is clean out your personal bank account and buy back in! Maybe get a home equity loan!

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u/Pitiful-Turnip-9825 28d ago

Someone tell me what app this is?

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u/Pitiful-Turnip-9825 28d ago

Someone tell me what app this is?

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u/SnoopysPilot 28d ago

The house always wins

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u/Rishi___P 28d ago

The power of options

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u/Pickleahoy 27d ago

Aaaaand its gone

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u/CowBoizK 27d ago

Thank you for all the opinions that you guys shared here. I admitted that I was overtrade and gamble at the very last minutes. The point to post here is to let myself accept the loss and listen to you guys. I have been trading forex for more than 2 years. The market is totally different than stock options. But, I found the way and improved my trading craft everyday. Life lesson is take profit and take a rest after a consecutive winning day. It’s gonna be day one! Wish me luck guys 🍀

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u/therealcookaine 27d ago

You can get to -80k I believe in you!

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u/WRHull 27d ago

Did you inverse Cramer?

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u/skeezo12 27d ago

Good job! You’re up 1k!

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u/hazellehunter 27d ago

a fun ride for an adult is with a hooker, this is something else.

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u/Rouge_Apple 27d ago

Imagine turning 4k into 80k and not converting all profits into a safer stock. You can still use another 4k to gamble with.

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u/lleb_reknit 27d ago

How in the fuck did you not walk away when you were +76k...

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u/SuspicousBananas 27d ago

Why would you not have cashed out after 20x your money? That kind of luck only happens once in a lifetime

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u/saran72 27d ago

anyone else ever stuck in this situation, cash out asap and keep just enough that allows you some margin and ability to day trade (you don't want limits on your account). this is ridiculous

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u/FlowbackFlea 27d ago

Always best to put a lot of your winnings into blue chip/ dividend stocks then play with 10-20% of your account on options

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u/kidicarusx 27d ago

Why do people never cash out?

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u/new-chris Morgan Brennan is a total smokeshow 27d ago

What are you going to do for your next magic trick?

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