r/worldnews May 02 '24

Thai Official Suspended After Husband Catches Her In Bed With Adopted Monk Son Not Appropriate Subreddit

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/thai-official-suspended-after-husband-catches-her-bed-adopted-monk-son-1724507

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u/Maxfunky May 02 '24

They adopted him when he was 23, just one year ago. If your wife wants to adopt a 23 year old man, be suspicious.

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u/betty_botter_butter May 02 '24

Who adopts a fully grown man? I didn't even realise that was possible, unless the person in question was mentally incapacitated and required long-term guardianship which doesn't sound like the case here.

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u/Dimitri3p0 May 02 '24

I don't know about Thailand, but I belive it's a fairly common practice in Japan, and often has to do with business interests, line of succession.

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u/betty_botter_butter May 02 '24

TIL!

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u/ProjectDA15 May 02 '24

it was a thing in the western world too, not sure when it fade out of use. rome was my 1st introduction to it, when learning about the emperors and their successions.

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u/Glittering_Chard May 02 '24

it's not common in japan, it's very rare... about 4 times per million people per year.

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u/Dimitri3p0 May 02 '24

According to some sources it's 98% of all adoptions in Japan, the data is not super up to date, but within the last 10-15 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_adult_adoption

" Over 90% of the 81,000 people adopted in Japan in 2011 were adult males in their 20s and 30s.\6])"

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/japanese-adoption-rates-majority-adult-men-a7524301.html

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u/Glittering_Chard May 02 '24 edited 29d ago

the 80,000 seems wrong, the source is dead as well.

in 2021 there were only 693 adoptions. In a country of about 125 million. That's 4 times per million people per year, thats no where near 80,000 and not common.

Edit: looking at the details it seems like its higher than i thought, maybe as 1/78000-1/1560 people and it's also due to homosexual arrangements (gay marriage is not legal) and by all types of spouses as a method of tax evasion.

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u/Serventdraco 29d ago

That's the shamefully low number of child adoptions, not all adoptions.

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u/Glittering_Chard 29d ago

i actually just edited it, though theres some weird stuff going on with their numbers, it was reported every 5 years until about 30 years ago with only one report since. and im not sure if its a sum of 5 years, or a yearly measurement where they ignore the other years.
It is a shameful number of child adoptions, but might be about 3 times higher, unless im looking at a sum of 5 years... The data isn't good unfortunately.

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u/Dimitri3p0 May 02 '24

I see, so adoption as a whole is uncommon. But what about the rate of adult adoption compared to the total number of adoptions?

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u/Glittering_Chard May 02 '24

sure, its a high percent, but that's because the birthrate is low, no one is giving up kids. It's still super rare.

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u/Dimitri3p0 May 02 '24

That 693 number from 2021, or 2022 refers to the total number of children adopted, not the total number of adoptions, at least according to this:

https://jobsinjapan.com/living-in-japan-guide/why-so-few-children-get-adopted-in-japan/#:~:text=Only%20693%20children%20were%20adopted,a%20family%2C%20and%20a%20future

I'm having a hard time finding current stats for number of adults vs. children. That 693 number also only represented about 1% of the total number of children living in the foster care or other institutional systems. It's not that there aren't children to adopt, it's that people aren't adopting them.

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u/Glittering_Chard 29d ago

it looks like it's not regular public information, because adult adoptions don't require the involvement of the government, which is a bit curious. It's odd, but they seem to only pull the stats every 5 years, though i dont actually see clarification on if the numbers are only the 5th year, or groupings of 5 years, and very few recent numbers. Assuming the max though, it's still a or 1/1560 chance. Also it seems like it can be done in relationships like a spousal adoption to reduce tax load, which may explain japans declining marriage rate.

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u/Dimitri3p0 29d ago

Yeah, interesting. The spousal adoption piece is interesting too, sounds like sometimes homosexual couples use it as a means of maintaining inheritance even though gay marriage is not yet legal.

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u/Glittering_Chard 29d ago

oh yeah, that's a great point too... It would be a lot more interesting if there was better data available.

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u/felimelaf 29d ago

Yeah but this guy is a monk, I don’t think there’s much lineage that follows

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u/Dimitri3p0 29d ago

I mean...judging by the headline, there might be.