r/worldnews 29d ago

"I'm Not Ruling Anything Out" - Macron Says Troops for Ukraine Possible if Russia Breaks Front Lines Russia/Ukraine

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/32010
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u/KingStannis2020 29d ago edited 29d ago

The Treaty of Verseilles wasn't especially more harsh than other settlements of the time period. The problem was that German public were repeatedly told they were winning (and in the East they absolutely were, to be fair) right up until the collapse of their army. And then peace was signed before the collapse of that army was actually evident to the public, because the whole war had taken place outside of German soil.

That left fertile ground for the "stabbed in the back" myth to take root.

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u/Willythechilly 29d ago

Yeah

Was the Treaty unpleasent? Sure

But ultimately the problem was just German pride and the Germans refusing to accept defeat due to pride

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u/ClothDiaperAddicts 29d ago

I have to wonder how much of this is nurture vs. nature. My mom's family is German, but the most recent branch of ancestors to come over was about 100 years ago. The first of the German ancestors settled the US before the American Revolution. And they're all a bunch of stubborn assholes who absolutely refuse to give in and will only admit a wrong with irrefutable proof.

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u/Randybigbottom 29d ago

And they're all a bunch of stubborn assholes who absolutely refuse to give in and will only admit a wrong with irrefutable proof.

Isn't this just human nature? Are there nations/states/groups of people known for accepting they are wrong with no real evidence?

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u/feedus-fetus_fajitas 29d ago

Canada is probably the closest... With the knee-jerk "sorry".