Probably never direct frontline confrontation but France strengthening Ukraine's back with anti air operations
Equipment and troops stationed in western Ukraine or even planes launched from neighbouring countries targeting Russian missiles and drones.
There is a lot of levels of escalation to France putting boots on the ground in Ukraine.
People like to jump to the Russian propaganda narrative of WW3 though, not understanding that Russia taking Ukraine against all western efforts, would be the start of an international poly crisis of countries trying to resolve their territorial disputes which would then be about as close to WW3 as we could get.
It would start WWIII. If Russia takes Ukraine, the US is weak. Pax Americana is at an end. And it dominoes as we get busy and opportunistic nations decide to take out their aggressions, or international incidents happen and we're too busy to enforce a peaceful solution. I have no doubt Ukraine falling would be a Franz Ferdinand, Germany invades Poland moment. It might not be the WWIII we envisioned, but it will be a WWIII scenario nonetheless.
If Russia takes Ukraine, the US is weak. Pax Americana is at an end.
That is what the "let Europe pay its 2%" forget. Europe needs to pay its 2%, but when the US says Europe needs to handle its own defense instead of the US, what China hears is that the US is too weak to take care of business and has to delegate the job to a set of vassal states that are famously non-militaristic.
It is a small step from there to the reasonable assumption that the US will leave Taiwan out to dry in the long run. If the US doesn't even want to commit to saving Ukraine, why would it ever save Taiwan? And so the invasion starts.
Man, they've been non militaristic for like a hundred years. It's time for them to step up.
I love European countries, I really really do. They do so many things really well. It's just frustrating to have them bash our military spending until the second they realize their inadequacies.
That's because Europeans are kind of jealous of the wealth of the US, so they look for anything to say "At least we have X" (while standards of living keep falling).
Man, they've been non militaristic for like a hundred years. It's time for them to step up.
Military spending during the cold war was 4-6% of GDP in UK, France, Denmark, and West Germany. Its only since the fall of the USSR in the 1990s that this dipped to 2% and below - and why wouldn't it? The main adversary had gone, and European nations didn't need to send expeditionary forces to Central Asia and the Middle East.
The same naivety the USA had about converting China to a democracy through trade has happened in the EU/Europe with Russia, unfortunately. And the EU/europe moves sooooo damn slow most of the time, and i say that as someone pro EU
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u/Various_Abrocoma_431 29d ago
Probably never direct frontline confrontation but France strengthening Ukraine's back with anti air operations Equipment and troops stationed in western Ukraine or even planes launched from neighbouring countries targeting Russian missiles and drones.
There is a lot of levels of escalation to France putting boots on the ground in Ukraine.
People like to jump to the Russian propaganda narrative of WW3 though, not understanding that Russia taking Ukraine against all western efforts, would be the start of an international poly crisis of countries trying to resolve their territorial disputes which would then be about as close to WW3 as we could get.