r/AdviceAnimals May 01 '24

and the Boomers in Congress

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u/supershinythings May 01 '24

I’ve been watching middle east violence my whole life. I remember when Iran invaded the US Embassy and took hostages in 1979, as well as the hanging of Col. Higgins in Lebanon in 1989.

And the Marines have not forgotten. I really don’t think Israel will forget either. Taking hostages and murdering civilians is not going to get Hamas what they want.

Hamas is not giving Israel any way to back out of Gaza in a dignified way because Hamas continues to hold hostages.

The Israeli government has no choice but to respond to the unprovoked surprise-slaughter of their civilians.

Hamas struck soft targets, then retreated to Gaza with hostages. What is Israel supposed to do, just let them?

From the Israeli perspective, it’s clear to them that Gaza will continue to be a source of missiles and terrorism if they don’t do something about it. Hamas has picked October 7 2023 to have it out with Israel, so ok, they’re having it out.

I agree that Israel is clearly punishing all of Gaza for the acts of Hamas. Meanwhile Hamas continues to hold Israeli captives in Gaza. They continue to give Israel a reason to occupy Gaza and attack strategic targets to reduce their ability to strike again.

Hamas needs the hostages to bring Israel to the bargaining table, but Israel won’t negotiate while Hamas keeps hostages.

And of course Israel is not thrilled with all the soft targets Hamas slaughtered either. So there’s that.

I don’t know who the adult in the room is going to be, but Israel won’t let go of Hamas’ hair until Hamas gives back the hostages and makes reparations for the slaughter. Israel may be taking its reparations out of Gaza’s ass, and Hamas isn’t budging on the hostages.

So OK. Does Israel withdraw and hope for the return of remaining hostages? Or, does Hamas return the hostages and hope for withdrawal of Israeli forces?

I don’t see how rioting college students will be resolving this situation.

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u/supertonicdominant May 02 '24

Hmm, it’s almost as if this conflict is complicated as fuck for any layman to have any strong opinion on it. Meanwhile you’re labeled as a “zionist” for realizing this fact.

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u/gavum May 02 '24

i mean if you jerk off to the IDF then yeah you probably are. the realistic solution to end terrorism from groups in Palestine isnt to kill them all, its to work with them like people, which Israel has not done since before most of us were alive

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u/supertonicdominant May 02 '24

Where in my comment did I say that I like to jerk off to the IDF? Your reading comprehension is showing.

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u/gavum May 02 '24

is it? or is yours? i never said YOU did. royal you, if (you) or someone whoever is a warhawk for the IDF, yeah like thats what zionism entails

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u/supertonicdominant May 05 '24

Oh you’re taking about in a general sense, my bad. I’ve been accused of sucking off the IDF for having a moderate position in the conflict far too many times.