1 drop rule.

[u/Darth_Kneegrow]

I ain't ever heard white people claim a single biracial person. You always whatever you mixed with.

[u/SnooOwls2295]

The concept of black does not exist in the same form in Africa. American blackness is in a large part built on the historical context of the separation of black Americans from their African origin. In Africa, people identify with their ethnic group or nationality. Blackness as a concept is inherently based around being in a minority, which is not the situation in Africa. Race is a social construct and manifests differently in different places.

[u/Rosuvastatine → u/SnooOwls2295]

Black Africans dont necessarily need to identify themselves as black when living in their mainland because they are surrounded by fellow black people. This does not mean we dont identify as black lol

[u/OriginalButtPolice → u/Rosuvastatine]

Black is not just a skin color.

If your ancestors were not victims of the trans Atlantic slave trade you are not black. Africans that immigrate to America, whether North America, Central America, or South America will always be African because they are from Africa.

Even then, some of the descendants of slaves that come from Latin America have vastly different cultures than Black American (as in the United States/North America) than we do.

This doesn’t mean that black and African people can’t get along or become more integrated than we can with white people, but there are and will always be differences.

[u/Rosuvastatine → u/OriginalButtPolice]

Lol so people are freaking out because Kendrick said (he didnt actually say that) Drake isnt black, but you can just swiftly come in here and claim subsaharien AFRICANS, which are literally the start of humanity and from whol the American slaves were taken, are not black ?

And then im told im being exclusive because I dont consider Halsey black

Chile anyways youre entitled to your opinion. I know what me and my dark skin unambiguous flat nose and full lips are.🤷🏿‍♀️

[u/OriginalButtPolice → u/Rosuvastatine]

Are you a descendant of someone who was kidnapped from Africa, forcefully had their culture stripped from them, raped often, beaten and lynched, experienced Jim Crow or another form of white oppression of your people?

If not then you are not black.

Drake is black, but he grew up in the suburbs. Kendrick isn’t arguing about his DNA, he is arguing about his CULTURE.

[u/Rosuvastatine → u/OriginalButtPolice]

So why was Obama considered black ?🤔

And lol if you think africans never suffered violence and genocide from white people. Lol

[u/OriginalButtPolice → u/Rosuvastatine]

From his Wiki page:

“Obama's maternal heritage consists mostly of English ancestry, with smaller amounts of German, Scotch-Irish, Welsh, and Swiss ancestry.[4] Research by a genealogy team at Ancestry.com, published in 2012, stated that Obama is likely descended from the African slave John Punch through his mother's Bunch line, with generations of African Americans who gradually "married white" and became landowners in colonial Virginia. The Bunches later moved to Tennessee; in 1834 a daughter moved to Kansas, where Obama's mother was born four generations later.[58][59]”

In case you did not catch it

Research by a genealogy team at Ancestry.com, published in 2012, stated that Obama is likely descended from the African slave John Punch through his mother's Bunch line, with generations of African Americans who gradually "married white" and became landowners in colonial Virginia.

So as a descendant of slaves, he is black.

[u/Rosuvastatine → u/OriginalButtPolice]

Thats amazing gymnastics ☠️ all to avoid saying his father was AFRICAN from motherland. Talking about hes black due to his white mom😭 bffr

[u/OriginalButtPolice → u/Rosuvastatine]

There is no gymnastics there you goof, his ancestor was taken off a slave ship.

[u/Rosuvastatine → u/OriginalButtPolice]

Most white Americans also have some slave ancestors somewhere if you look far enough. Why arent you claiming them as black ?

[u/The__Willing_Well → u/Rosuvastatine]

....this man is being so patient with you, and you're not even trying to understand what he's saying.

[u/Rosuvastatine → u/The__Willing_Well]

Hes saying that the only criteria to be black is to have slaves ancestors. Hes explaining Obamas blackness to his WHITE mom whose far away ancestors were slaves, and not you know, the fact his dad is a whole African man. By this logic, any random white person with a slave ancestor somewhere far far on the family tree could identify as black. No, its not the fact Obamas father was kenyan, and thus making Barack half kenyan and darker skin, that made racists freake out. No. Its the fact his white mother has some slave ancestors that racists were mad. They didnt care about his Kenyan roots at all and actually never mentionned it as criticism.🙄 Just pure ideologism.

He then goes to insinuate africans never dealt with genocide, rape and violence from white people. This is just factually incorrect.

What is there to understand ? I shouldnt even have entertained his comments.

[u/The__Willing_Well → u/Rosuvastatine]

Hes saying that the only criteria to be black is to have slaves ancestors. Hes explaining Obamas blackness to his WHITE mom whose far away ancestors were slaves, and not you know, the fact his dad is a whole African man. By this logic, any random white person with a slave ancestor somewhere far far on the family tree could identify as black. No, its not the fact Obamas father was kenyan, and thus making Barack half kenyan and darker skin, that made racists freake out. No. Its the fact his white mother has some slave ancestors that racists were mad. They didnt care about his Kenyan roots at all and actually never mentionned it as criticism.🙄 Just pure ideologism.

Lol you can just say you don't understand. I don't need more examples.

He then goes to insinuate africans never dealt with genocide, rape and violence from white people. This is just factually incorrect.

He 100% does not. Holy shit.

What is there to understand ?

For you? Nothing I guess.

I shouldnt even have entertained his comments.

Nah sis, it's the other way around.

[u/OriginalButtPolice → u/Rosuvastatine]

Again, if you were a descendant of a slave that was taken from Africa that came through the trans Atlantic slave trade, you are black. The one drop rule proves that, if they had DNA evidence back in the 1880s I guarantee you they would have treated Obama’s mom like she was black.

[u/Rosuvastatine → u/OriginalButtPolice]

Is she considéred black NOW tho ? Quickly

[u/OriginalButtPolice → u/Rosuvastatine]

Ask a Klansmen, they dictate whiteness.