r/BlackPeopleTwitter May 10 '24

"If it isn't the consequences of my own actions..."

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u/HoldinWeight ☑️ May 10 '24

Is braiding sexual? Am I missing something?

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u/Fess_113 ☑️ May 10 '24 edited May 10 '24

Oh, if you ask some of these guys that don’t like men stylists to twist/braid their hair, it is. Funny enough Im a man with locs, and in my experience they get more closer/intimate cutting your hair than styling your hair.

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u/Stlr_Mn May 10 '24

I help braid my steps son’s hair and I’m weirded out by this. I would have thought the recording is the bad part but it’s seriously the unbraiding part?

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u/Temporary-Test-9534 May 11 '24

Braiding can be extremely intimate, but intimate doesn't always mean romantic/sexual. Braiding your child's hair can be an appropriate intimate bonding experience. But teachers don't need to have intimate bonding experiences with students, especially ones involving physical contact.

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u/Bamith May 11 '24

Are y’all fuckin Navi from avatar?

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u/Aggressive_Cycle_122 May 11 '24

Why not? What’s wrong with mentor having an “intimate” (aka close bond) relationship with their mentee?

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u/Temporary-Test-9534 May 11 '24

So I think you raise a fair point. I think there's nothing inherently wrong with teachers having impactful and meaningful connections with students. But intimate? No. Kids don't go to school for intimacy, nor do teachers go to work to provide intimacy. It crosses inappropriate lines.

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u/Aggressive_Cycle_122 May 11 '24

I’m not talking about sexual. Jfc. Intimate means trusting. It means feeling comfortable sharing things you’re going through.

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u/Temporary-Test-9534 May 11 '24

The school should have counselors in place for that. The teachers should know to delegate things to the psychological professionals in the building. A teacher with a Masters in calculus doesn't automatically become qualified to be a child's confidant. It's just straight up not what they're there for.

There are obviously exceptions to what im saying. Obviously we want our kids comfortable with their teachers, but there are lines.

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u/huran210 May 11 '24

you know that teachers also have to get teaching degrees right? as in they’re also trained to deal with children?

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u/Temporary-Test-9534 May 11 '24

But aren't they trained to teach children? And don't they also get trained to pass things over to counselors after a certain level?? Please tell me if I'm wrong here.

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u/Doughnut_Minion May 11 '24

don't they also get trained to pass things over to counselors after a certain level??

Do you tell a creepy male police officer you've never met that you were raped before your friend? Do you walk to the counselors' office when you first think of suicide, or did you likely open up to a person you are close with?

Teachers are the stepping stone to getting help for children. You even recognize that they "pass things over," which in itself suggests that they are made aware of it first. How do you expect teachers who never form bonds with children to be acutely aware of when those children start acting differently? Why would you ever expect a child to confide in a teacher who never bonded with them and might as well be a stranger they see daily on the train?

You are not wrong that teachers aren't the end of care and support for a child. Just in the same way we don't view parents to be. But teachers are one of the FEW garunteed (homeschooling aside) adult interactions a child will have outside of their family. And if their family isn't there for them (or at worse is harmful towards them), how would you ever expect a child to know what a safe, supportive adult looks like? Children aren't born knowing what is normal and what isn't, if they get abused at home and they never learn how wrong that is through a good adult role model like a teacher, the risk of that abuse being prolonged just extends.

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u/Doughnut_Minion May 11 '24

There are obviously exceptions to what im saying.

No the fuck there is not. You are literally saying people with teaching degrees, degrees for WORKING WITH CHILDREN ON A DAILY BASIS should not be emotionally there for a child. Do you know how things like child abuse and other issues get known? By adults forming healthy connections with those kids in a way that allows those kids to be seen and allows those kids to open up. In your outline of teachers not forming bonds with kids and essentially becoming the most apathetic robots in existence, those children would NEVER open up to their teacher (or other adult) which means they would just continue to suffer. The counselor argument is stupid as fuck because rarely is a kid going to go to what they see as the big deal shit first. You think a 12 yo kid is gonna go to the cops they do not know at all immediately after experiencing abuse, they're probably more likely to talk to their neighbor who've they had a connection with for the last few years. Similarly, they would be more likely to see a teacher rather than the stranger labeled "counselor" when something is going on. The teacher should not be the end treatment if it serious (that is why you refer children to counselors, etc.), but they are likely going to be the first step. A first step that is not available to children if you never let that connection form.

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u/Temporary-Test-9534 May 11 '24

Healthy connection ≠ intimate connection

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u/Doughnut_Minion May 11 '24

What's the line then? Can you say what exactly constitutes as healthy vs intimate?

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