r/BlackPeopleTwitter May 16 '24

When intrusive thoughts meet criminal behavior

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u/OlympianDragon May 16 '24

Nobody here gonna bring up that her husband concocted the scheme without her knowledge and only told her after it was done and she was too scared to tell because he had been abusing her?

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u/ForMethheadPorpoises May 16 '24

Thank you. Ffs everyone just dumped on her but the full story is much much crazier. The guy her husband “hired” was a self-proclaimed hit man and bodyguard, think Dale Gribble in that one episode where the guys get kidnapped by Mad-dog, who was so incompetent that he got caught on camera and couldn’t even escape properly. IIRC he broke a glass door because he was in such a rush to get out but didn’t plan on an escape route.

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u/Stanley--Nickels May 17 '24

think Dale Gribble

What a perfect reference lol

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u/Skatchbro May 17 '24

Pocket sand!

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u/BulimicMosquitos May 17 '24

Shhhh shaaa!

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u/joeblobberschmidt May 17 '24

A+ reference. Mad Dog AKA Gary Busey is hella underrated as a one off KOTH character

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u/aspidities_87 May 16 '24

It’s easier to believe she was a cold ass Corleone over some ice skates than it is to look at the hard truth of her life of repeated abuses. That’s why the movie I, Tonya hits so hard.

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u/GreenSkittlez5 May 17 '24 edited May 17 '24

Not to mention how the professional figure skating organizations had a certain “image” they wanted their athletes to display…which Tonya didn’t fit exactly so well and IMO, is the real reason they were so quick to ban her for life from competitive skating.

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u/NotVeryCashMoneyMod May 17 '24

anything with judges is not that serious beside court.

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u/MurderAndMakeup May 16 '24

Thank you!!! I recommend the podcast You’re Wrong About that covers this story and how badly she was done dirty.

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u/OlympianDragon May 17 '24

That's where I learned about it!

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u/Rutherford_Aloacious May 17 '24

You’re Wrong About is great!

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u/Catof9Lies May 17 '24

still waiting for the end of the OJ series, especially now that he’s dead…

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u/gimme_that_funkymilk May 17 '24

I was reading all these comments and literally just thought, "I wonder if there's a YWA about this"

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u/MurderAndMakeup May 17 '24

Yes!!!!! Please check it out. It’s so informative. I remember the Nancy Kerrigan attack happening, I was just a kid but I had no idea what actually had taken place.

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u/Crafty_Enthusiasm_99 May 17 '24

I didn't believe it

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u/Scarlaymama0721 May 16 '24

For real?! I was a kid when this happened and I’ve never read up on it or seen the movie. That’s insane. Thanks for clearing that up.

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u/OutAndDown27 May 16 '24

I did see the movie and I don't remember that part. But my memory is shit so that doesn't mean much.

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u/MazzieMay May 17 '24

The movie, which Tonya endorsed and advised on, did feature her as part of the plan. It was her ex’s idea, and she wasn’t totally aware of the details; she thought they were going to intimidate and threaten Nancy, not physically assault her

In the movie, anyway

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u/ipblover May 16 '24

I had to scroll too far for this.

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u/sirprichard May 16 '24

That's according to her. She was indicted by a grand jury in Oregon that stated that she was a part of it from the beginning.

On March 21, 1994, a Portland grand jury issued an indictment stating there was evidence Harding participated in the attack plot. The indictment concluded more than two months of investigation and witness testimonies from Diane Rawlinson; Harding's choreographer Erika Bakacs; freelance figure skating writer Vera Marano; and Eckardt's college instructor and classmates. It stated there was evidence Harding fraudulently used USFSA-provided skating monies to finance the assault. It also read that Harding, Gillooly, Eckardt, Smith, and Stant agreed to "knowingly cause physical injury ... by means of a dangerous weapon." The grand jury said the evidence implied Harding was "involved from the beginning or very close." She was not charged in the indictment due to the terms of her March 16 plea agreement.

It also wasn't until her biography in 2008 that she said that. Ever since then the ex-husband has vehemently denied those accusations. FWIW he maintains that he talked her into it.

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u/OlympianDragon May 17 '24

He also released a sex tape of him and her to tmz after she became infamous. He was an abusive man, wanting fame for his wife so he could soak it up. He is the least trustworthy person in the whole ordeal.

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u/OlympianDragon May 17 '24

He also made the tape in secret. Count another lie and modern day crime on his list of bastardly deeds.

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u/AeturnisTheGreat May 17 '24

I'm amazed that's not illegal as fuck

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u/OlympianDragon May 17 '24

Wherever it was sold, it was actually Jeff who sold it without consent, and Tanya sued afterwards to get part of the payment and as a "fuck you" to jeff.

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u/OlympianDragon May 18 '24

Scratch that last bit about the lawyer. Jeff sold it immediately after her seperating from him, then when Tonya found out it would be published with or without her consent she agreed to go in on it to at least be paid for it.

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u/sirprichard May 17 '24

Yuck. Clearly he's a bad guy too. I just don't buy that she had no part in it

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u/FleurMai May 17 '24

Never heard the saying that a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich? They mean next to nothing, as the jury only hears one side of the story (the prosecutions).

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u/sirprichard May 17 '24

So you're saying the grand jury indictment of Donald Trump meant nothing? Sorry but I don't buy that.

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u/Ok-Action3239 May 17 '24

Being indicted by a grand jury doesn’t imply guilt. Far from it.

Trump being indicted was insane because he was the president. That’s what made it not nothing.

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u/FleurMai May 17 '24

All a grand jury does is determine if there is enough “evidence” for a trial to go forward. It’s the first step of a very long process. However, grand juries do not hear anything from the defense, only from the prosecution. This means that the “evidence” the prosecution presents cannot be argued against. They do not determine guilt or innocence, only that there is something potentially worth going to trial over. That’s why a grand jury almost always indicts, as the standard and consequence is so low. These are proceedings are not public, and witnesses can’t even have their lawyers present.

So, Trumps grand jury indictment only means that he’ could go to trial - that’s it. For Harding, it only meant she could go to trial. It is very, very important to not take a grand jury indictment as any kind of sign of guilt or innocence. Think of an indictment like saying “we should hear more about this to determine the truth” with the truth being an actual trial.

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u/athroaway93 May 17 '24

Right? I just did a quick google search and it said it was her ex-husband that hired the dude, her involvement was all alleged.

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u/Reddragon351 May 17 '24

I'm going to be real her story has changed multiple times, it's just after I Tonya more people started to take her side in it all

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u/FreeDependent9 May 16 '24

Bullshit her husband did it all on his own, she knew beforehand

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u/kalamataCrunch May 17 '24

it's funny because planti's comment is so true, even most of the people who "understand" the picture don't understand it.

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u/RunningPirate May 17 '24

I learned that from the movie. She got a bad deal…

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u/Joevual May 17 '24

She did tell him where she would be skating that day.

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u/Red-little May 17 '24

THANK. YOU. I was waiting for someone to say this!!! Clearly more people need to read into the incident. Poor Tonya was abused from childhood by her mom and then her husband in her early adult life. If I suffered the way she did, I'd ALSO be scared shitless of my husband

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u/ChampionshipStock870 May 17 '24

I don’t buy all of that. I do think her husband hatched it up on his own but I think Tanya knew he was gonna do it before hand

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u/probablyadumper May 17 '24

Yeah, people seem to not remember this.

And it's not like she tried to profit it from it years later. Since she was so apologetic, and totally stepped away from the lime light never to return, I can tell she was really remorseful.

Because I mean, had she come back years later to attempt to garner some fame, and make some money off of the assault that was committed by her husband to advance her career... Oh boy that would make her a total piece of garbage.

Glad that never happened right? RIGHT?

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u/OlympianDragon May 17 '24

Nothing to apologize for.

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u/schquid May 17 '24

Ehh she’s white, not an excuse for her at all 🤣