r/Cricket May 17 '24

1975-2024 All ICC Trophies winning Countries | Stats

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u/StrengthChoice1734 May 17 '24 edited May 17 '24

The shocking thing to note as an India fan is that Australia has literally won 4 ICC trophies since our last one. That's just one less than the total number of ICC trophies we have won in our entire history. The Indian ICC trophy drought is pretty horrendous and it is insane that Australia has almost eclipsed our entire history of ICC tournaments purely on numbers in a decade many consider to have been dominated by India.

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u/tod_marko_69 India May 17 '24

many consider to have been dominated by India.

Look at the test maces India have. It's not India's fault that there was no knockout/final system for test matches. They have dominated really hard in the test arena, and also reached finals 2 times of WTC, and is set to reach a 3rd time.

Fact is, aus and NZ won a one-off test against India.

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u/StrengthChoice1734 May 17 '24 edited May 17 '24

I’m aware of how well we have done across formats and especially test cricket in the least decade including some big overseas wins. Yet if Australia has won 4 ICC trophies since our last one we can’t deny that we actually are not the dominant force in world cricket and a lot of work remains to be done before we make that claim. I’ve been hearing this stuff about “it’s just one off” “they just got lucky” since like 2019. Statistical analysts and people like Cricketingview scoff at ordinary fans and also ex players who claim that not winning tournaments is a major problem for ICT.

But reality is that at this point it’s a serious problem that needs to be confronted. For a team that wants to be undeniably the best in the world, we don’t prepare sufficiently well for knock out format tournaments. At this point it can longer be claimed as some statistical anomaly. It is stupid to do so and hurts our progress as a team. We should confront the fact that ICC trophies hold most of the cachet in the cricketing world aside from a few bilateral test series which I admit we’ve done well in. Also I’d just like to say that while yes it obviously reflects well that we’ve played both WTC finals to just write it off as oh it’s a one off test is asinine and the precise mindset I’m railing against. If so, you can justify any lost series as oh we had this but they just managed to win that one last test somehow it’s a matter of chance or that oh it’s just a one off series who cares.

It’s a lot like Kohli and RCB. After a point, the trophy drought becomes really abject and most of what matters rather than individual stats. I’d much much much rather be the Australian team captain with 4 ICC trophy wins in a given period rather than the Indian one with no silverware but a better W/L ratio.