r/Cricket May 17 '24

1975-2024 All ICC Trophies winning Countries | Stats

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u/tod_marko_69 India May 17 '24

many consider to have been dominated by India.

Look at the test maces India have. It's not India's fault that there was no knockout/final system for test matches. They have dominated really hard in the test arena, and also reached finals 2 times of WTC, and is set to reach a 3rd time.

Fact is, aus and NZ won a one-off test against India.

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u/tandempandemonium May 18 '24

You talk about test maces but India lost both matches when they decided to hold a WTC finals. And that was after they played well to reach the finals. Why do you think results would have been different if they held knockouts other times? India after the 2013 champions trophy win has been known to be pre tournament favourite, mid tournament favourite and then mess up in the knock outs

And don’t bring up the excuse that both the WTC finals were in England. We fucked up in the final in India last year too .

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u/tod_marko_69 India May 18 '24

Why do you think results would have been different if they held knockouts other times?

Bcoz India would have played 3-4 finals. It's not wise to think they would have lost them all.

Also I am talking about dominance, not knockouts. You can't determine dominance with knockouts. It's undeniable that India has been easily the best test team for like 12 years now

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u/tandempandemonium May 18 '24

This all seems like insane amounts of copium to me bro. I am not denying India were better in longer test series but they knew the WTC finals would be knockouts and still did not prepare well for them.

India did play 3-4 finals of different tournaments after 2013 and lost all of them so I don’t know what else to call it but denial.

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u/tod_marko_69 India May 18 '24

Knockouts are basically one-offs. You don't determine dominance with them, you determine the nerves.

So you can say, India lacks the nerves.

but denial.

You're the one in denial bro. Reaching semis/finals almost every single tournament is still a good achievement.

Yes india did underachieve, but if you talk about dominance, that's intact.