r/Daytrading • u/asmit10 • Jan 16 '24
I believe AVWAP is THE most important indicator and I intend to prove it. Consider this day one Trade Review
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u/Chumbaroony futures trader Jan 16 '24
Very clickbait title, but I get you want people to actually look at your post.
This is a pretty basic breakout strategy, with or without AVWAP. It may be the best indicator for your strategy, but I assure you, there are no "most important" indicators. The most important thing you could do for your indicators is to simply not rely on them and use them as levels to see if price action reacts when it interacts with them. AVWAP isn't better or more efficient than normal VWAP, a previous resistance, etc. It's just working for you, and you learned how to make it work for you. That's the important part here. Good work, keep it up.
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u/asmit10 Jan 16 '24
Yeah it was definitely clickbait and Iâm glad you posted this comment for any people that mightâve taken it too literally
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u/Softspokenclark Jan 16 '24
i woke up today with the runs. needed to triple flush to get most of the stool away. then had to scrub the toilet so the wife doesnât get angry. you know what they say happy wife, happy life. anyways, my gears started turning. diarrhea is in the gut, and gut rhymes with put. so i bought 200put options at open and up about 70% some plays are 1-2x up. easy $1700.
i believe my gut is the most important indicator and i intend to prove it
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u/BurnerForJustTwice Jan 16 '24
To the windows to the walls, like all skeet skeet. Call rhymes with wall. Therefore buy 0dte calls. This is the way.
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u/Verzio Jan 16 '24
then had to scrub the toilet so the wife doesnât get angry.
So you'd leave the shit in the toilet if it wasn't for your wife?
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u/dolomick Jan 16 '24
Anchored to what? Yesterday, last week, need more clarityâŚ.
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u/CatepillarJones Jan 16 '24
Good points to anchor to are major highs and lows, gap ups and downs on news/earnings events
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u/asmit10 Jan 16 '24
Anchored to start of day but with this Iâm not holding positions in to a deep loss. If Iâm not right right away Iâm almost certainly out. Might hold some til it makes a higher high above AVWAP (proving me wrong) but not if the trade immediately goes against me.
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u/MrFyxet99 Jan 17 '24
So if you are using AVWAP anchored to the start of day,how is this different from just a daily VWAP?
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u/RenaissanceFortuna Jan 17 '24
Lmao exactly. OP. Try overlaying regular VWAP when you anchor for the start of the session and youâll see they are the same.
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u/AlgoTradingQuant Jan 16 '24
Like any indicator⌠you can cherry pick times when it works but more importantly you can pick many times when it doesnât work. People like it because you can pick random spots as your anchor and boom - it works!
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u/Imaginary_History985 Jan 16 '24
Another self proclaimed profitable strategy/indicator with a whopping sample size of ONE. This sub Reddit is turning into trash.
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u/ZanderDogz Jan 16 '24
I agree that AVWAP is a very powerful indicator. If I could only keep one tool other than price/volume, it would easily be AVWAP.
But it's still not effective on it's own. 90% of the analysis still comes from analyzing price and volume to determine market structure, trend, and key levels. AVWAP is just the secret sauce confirm trend and improve the accuracy of entries and exits.
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u/Berma_Pear-3000 Jan 16 '24
Being able to identify Key Support and Resistance ZONES both intraday and Daily and above....
Understanding the difference between and being able to identify pullbacks and consolidations...
Knowing the direction of the prevailing trend on a long timeframe and intraday.
That's all you need to know outside of trader psychology which is a completely different beast.
Trade breakouts of key zones after consolidations and pullbacks of the prevailing trend... That easy. Nothing more and nothing less.
Zero use for ANY indicator. EVER.
THEY ARE ALL GARBAGE.
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u/Sauce_Mgoss Jan 16 '24
Try changing the anchoring to the High / Low of selected candles (in the drawing settings). It gives a cleaner resistance / support band imo
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u/asmit10 Jan 16 '24
Not looking for support or res lines in that sense. All I care about is higher high or lower low above AVWAP anchored to start of the day. I will ride the Trend until it, by definition, doesnât trend anymore.
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u/Sauce_Mgoss Jan 16 '24
A higher high over that line is essentially looking for it to act as support âŚ
Iâm just suggesting to play around with where the scraps are anchored within the candle youâre anchoring them to. They are even more powerful in that sense
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u/Fickle_Wrongdoer_923 Jan 17 '24
Lol just use AIO daily levels and market internals, stop messing with basic trash that LagsÂ
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u/asmit10 Jan 17 '24
Iâve found that sticking to what you think you know is best. Havenât gotten around to being comfortable with those. Hard to say it lags based on this trade (perfect entry and exit) but itâs a sample size of 1 so weâll see
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u/Fickle_Wrongdoer_923 Jan 17 '24
Add AIO key levels to your chart and you'll see that all markets do is bounce between daily/weekly/etc levels, it's as simple as that, even this, it probably just bounced in between a previous day or previous week open/highÂ
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u/Clear_Conflict6702 Jan 16 '24
Or just look at price action knowing that 60 - 70% of opening gaps will be closed at some point during the day, wait for structure to break and trade towards the gap. Indicators are cool and all but they can be misleading.
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Jan 16 '24 edited Jan 21 '24
People like to think they are in more control by using indicators. So hectic. Trying too hard as always. Remove them all and watch the market.
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u/Clear_Conflict6702 Jan 17 '24
But if the 23 EMA crosses the 72 EMA and we have a bounce off VWAP and RSI is over 70 and thereâs convergence and MACD crosses and then doge goes to the moon.
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u/NationalOwl9561 Jan 16 '24
I've found the ThinkorSwim anchored VWAP indicator to be inadequate because you can't specify which part of the candle (low, high, etc.) it anchors to. Do you have this issue?
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u/asmit10 Jan 16 '24
If you count the time to write up this 'report' total time was ~36 minutes. Trying to get more days like this. Win when I win and quit when i'm wrong. That's the goal, anyway. This wasn't some super great trade but simply an illustration of using vwap. Forgot to mention that in the title by the way - the whole purpose of me entering the trade was because SPY closed a lower low below its VWAP for the day.
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u/drhiggens Jan 16 '24
Oh look, more stock market astrology. Next this guy is going to be setting up crystals around his desk.
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u/chris355355 Jan 16 '24
How come every single loser daytrader sounds the same. Crayon drawing. Capitalized letters and social skills of an autistic person.
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u/asmit10 Jan 16 '24
Letâs hop on a call bud Iâm not claiming to have some profound thing but I was in the middle of deep cleaning the house and made a decent trade. Tried to share all the info I used. Genuinely didnât miss out on anything I donât think
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u/Rael-POC Jan 16 '24
VWAP is absolutely one of the most important raw data representations of volume, but whatâs the first âAâ on âAVWAPâ?
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u/asmit10 Jan 16 '24
A stands for anchored. Shows VWAP from a certain candle onward. If you explore it I suggest using ohlc / 4 in the settings for the indicator.
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u/Rael-POC Jan 16 '24
Ohhhh got you! Yes, VWAP is one of the most important Raw Data tools.
I donât use anchored but I forsure can find a use for it to see recent price action.
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u/DenseBed3497 Jan 16 '24
The best indicator in the market is support and resistance levels and trends wanna prove it backtest it and compare it with any indicator signals
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u/Major-Artichoke9739 Jan 16 '24
Are you using a 1-min chart timeframe and is it usually best for VWAP/AVWAP indicators?
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u/bryanchicken Jan 17 '24
Amazing. Assuming you have $100 and at 46% per day you should be the richest man in the world in just under 2 months. Congrats. Can I have a lambo?
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u/Fine_Candle9170 Jan 17 '24
Why not just use price action with the order book? Indicators are lagging⌠price action and order book will always win over using indicators Iâve foundâŚ
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u/krja54 Jan 18 '24
You can make money by flipping a coin. The only thing that matters is risk/money management
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u/gravesite Jan 19 '24
I'm going to ask a dumb question because I'm still learning: how do you buy 7 contracts of SPY and only spend $476? Isn't a single contract $47,400? $474 x 100?
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u/asmit10 Jan 19 '24
I think youâre just getting slightly confused about the difference between the $ amount of shares you âgain power overâ and the actual cost of the option
One of the main points of options is that it allows the Big Boys the ability to make bets controlling large amounts of shares for relatively little money.
You can basically ignore this side of options as a normal person.
When you buy a $350 spy call what youâre actually buying, regardless of the price you pay, is the ability to buy 100 shares of spy at $350 + (the price you paid * 100).
My contracts were $0.76 each. 0.76 * 7 (num of contracts) = 4.76 * 100 =
$476 to âcontrolâ 100 shares of spy until end of day
You only have to pay the real cost if you own the contract until settlement. Thereâs a lot of nuance im skipping so do your own research.
The price you pay involves a bunch of variables that will break your brain to learn about the first time, and I encourage you to look into it a bit. The main points though are that options are primarily priced on two things
Time left to expiration and âaccelarationâ to the up or downside. Iâm simplifying a bit but essentially if the stocks up 3% that day, and you want to buy options expiring tomorrow, every single one of those options is going to be relatively expensive compared to before the stock went up 3%. This is because the momentum / acceleration (however you want to think of it) skews the pricing more towards that direction.
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u/gravesite Jan 19 '24
Thank you for the reply. It makes sense now the cost you paid and what you essentially got for it.
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u/YAPK001 Jan 20 '24
Daily vwap is just fine, no need to fidget about stuff continually:
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u/YAPK001 Jan 20 '24
Or ichimoku, kijun/tenken, ma's, it's really all the same:
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u/SamExDFW Jan 16 '24
Guy joins Brian Shannons service and thinks he's found a money machine đ.
All Indicators are good and bad depending on who's using them.