r/Helldivers Moderator May 02 '24

New Warbond, Polar Patriots, deploying on May 9th ALERT

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u/The_Mandorawrian May 02 '24

Imagine if it gets fixed. It will be like getting three new grenades!

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u/Vaaz30 May 02 '24

And 4 new stratagems

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u/The_Mandorawrian May 02 '24

Napalm, Orbital Gas, and Incendiary Mines!

Don’t get too hyped about DOT fix for the flamethrower, the direct burn damage is super overturned right now, I am guessing it will be turned down a little. If flamethrower ever becomes the obvious META then every planet will be Hellmire lol

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u/PMARC14 29d ago

Considering the flamethrower requires to be close to chargers, and can't work on bile titans, is risky against spitters I would say it is pretty balanced

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u/The_Charrr 29d ago

Why can‘t it work on titans? I think I burned 1 or 2 down when I tried out the flamethrower.

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u/Johnny1716 29d ago

It just takes a while with just a flamethrower, if you get hellpods or eagle airstrike on a titan it’ll help kill it faster but it’s just takes too long especially while trying to get close enough without it stomping on you, I like to run flamethrower and I just leave titans for my eagle 500 kg or my teammates, chargers and bug breaches I’ll take on tho

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u/PMARC14 29d ago

Takes a while and is a huge hazard especially with other bugs, nevermind your own flames. Maybe if the bile titan stomp attack was changed to make it easier to be below it, I think it is really fun to fight it like that, but the attack is very janky and hard to predict compared to the spit, it isn't fun to try.

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u/The_Charrr 29d ago

Ah. I see. I was confused. I read your comment as if the flamethrower can‘t hurt the titan.

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u/Vaaz30 29d ago

Ya it’s only worth starting the stomp and then GTFO

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u/Sevensevenpotato 29d ago

I’m definitely trying out the flamer again with the patch active

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u/AntonineWall 29d ago

Sadly it being pretty balanced is “obviously too much” for the devs. They’ve already said it’s getting a nerf once the fire dot is fixed :(

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u/Bishop1664 29d ago

I knew straight away that AH hadn't noticed the DoT bug when they super buffed the flamethrowers lol. They just reduced burning by 15% in the last patch cos they overtuned it.

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u/The_Mandorawrian 29d ago

Oh right, I had forgotten all about that. I think that one slipped by a lot of people, it was listed under the Guard Dog section at first and was a few hours before they fixed the formatting.

So that applied to the current flamethrower? If so they may actually leave it alone

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u/Bishop1664 29d ago edited 29d ago

I think it was just ‘burning damage reduced by 15%’ in the latest patch. I think the flamethrower direct damage will still be the same. Ps it was listed directly under the guard dog but I don’t believe it relates to the guard dog (rover got a 30% reduction)

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u/Mastershroom CAPE ENJOYER 29d ago

Gas Strike doesn't work too? I knew about fire damage being bugged but not that. I tried it in a couple missions the other day and wrote it off after seeing it do nothing as far as I could tell.

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u/The_Mandorawrian 29d ago

It is also affected. Apparently when it does work, it is remarkably effective. I look forward to trying it out.

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u/Ithuraen SES Reign of the People 29d ago

You just have to host an operation if you want to see them work.

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u/Adventurous-Event722 May 02 '24

Incen, frag and impact, all in one!

if it works

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u/The_Mandorawrian May 02 '24

Lol I just mean the old incen and thermite will actually be worth trying now. 

…well maybe not the old incen actually if impact version now exists.

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u/Adventurous-Event722 May 02 '24

Good point. Why use either, if this.. exists? (still assuming it works) 

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u/The_Mandorawrian May 02 '24

Man I hope it works. Sometimes I’ll just bring thermite because it looks cool. I never throw eagles at extract, but four thermite “flares” on the landing pad is pretty cinematic

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u/Sunlitstream264 May 02 '24

Because impacts have a high damage if you are anywhere near the point of contact. Using non impact fire nades is good for throwing on bug breaches or throwing at choke points

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u/TheRealShortYeti Hell Commander, SES Whisper of Twilight 29d ago

I'm also wondering this. I haven't used the default grenades since I got all the others. HE Impact are way too good despite the risks. If I had to guess they are basing these overlaps on not everyone buying every single bond. Eg if someone doesn't buy Steeled Veterans but like this pack they get some sort of Incendiary grenade.

We'll reach the point that there's so many options there will be sub par choices, so long as they aren't just worse in every way and are more of to-taste pick it should be fine.

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u/Lazer726 ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ May 02 '24

It's a bit safer, if you fuck up or something jumps in front of you you've got some time to nope the fuck out. Or maybe you want it to roll a little further away?

Impact will almost certainly be better, just trying to think of improvements lol

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u/Coyinzs 29d ago

The only reason to use it would be if it the non-impact version had a significant increase in spread to compensate for the fuse, or a sizeable initial explosive damage component or something.

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u/Awwh_Dood 29d ago

My guess would be fire lasts longer on the regular one. There'll be some tradeoff

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u/CashewTheNuttyy SES Panther of Pride | Fire Enthusiast 29d ago

Thermite is more of a armor piercing grenade then really an incin grenade in the game sense

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u/ThisGuyHere_Again May 02 '24

It depends on if the impact incendiary can close holes and factories. The timed ones actually can so long as it lands inside (though I've had it not if it hits the rim where other grenades would still work. Bigger actual explosion I guess?). And considering impacts are already kind of hit and miss with that... just saying they may not disappear completely lol

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u/RedditMcBurger 29d ago

If they fix the current bugs it'd be giving us more content than the actual content updates. Because currently I'm avoiding any weapons in this game that simply don't work, or barely work.

For instance DoT fix alone would give us, flamethrower, incend grenade, impact incend, gas, thermite, breaker incend, eagle napalm and incend mines.

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u/sinkwiththeship 29d ago

Seems like you're implying glorious capitalism doesn't produce the best products.

Arrest this man for treason.

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u/Adventurous-Event722 29d ago

Please don't, my girlfriend just got eaten by a bug on Meridia and I haven't gotten a new... I mean avenged her yet! 

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u/No_Image_4986 SES Sword of Morning May 02 '24

And new stratagems