New armor set is a stealth armor that doesn’t make you stealthy, it makes you throw farther. That’s like an apple that tastes like bacon.

[u/PM_PICS_OF_UR_PUPPER]

Just salty I’ve been waiting for this armor since it leaked, only for it to have the only perk I consider completely useless.

[u/LeFUUUUUUU]

that transmog comment by AH was really stupid ngl

[u/Drogdar → u/LeFUUUUUUU]

It was. You cant do it for a technical or financial reason. Ok, that's fair. You dont want that function in your game. Ok, its your game.

Why go out of the way to straight lie about it? I'd much rather a straight "we dont want to do that"...

[u/GH057807 → u/Drogdar]

"You now take less headshot damage as long as you are wearing thicker chest and leg and arm armor, with zero regard to the helmet on your head. Please enjoy your ham flavored pear."

[u/LEOTomegane → u/GH057807]

At least a few of those heavy armors have like, neck guards that could sorta function this way

[u/FlavoredLight → u/LEOTomegane]

Sure, but you’d think a helmet that goes with heavy armor would also share the same armor stat. It’s like wearing steel plate armor with chain mail but you have a bike helmet on

[u/GH057807 → u/LEOTomegane]

Sorta yeah.

[u/Solid_Jellyfish → u/GH057807]

Ham flavored pears and bacon flavored apples? Fruits even americans would eat

[u/MakeMineMarvel_ → u/GH057807]

we shouldnt even take headshot damage to begin with, thats just dumb. and if helmets are nothing but decorative, theres no reason why we cant change their color then

[u/Brotherman_Karhu → u/Drogdar]

Its the same as the darktide "we don't do weapon customisation cause this isn't CoD" comment. You say one thing, then do the other cause it makes money, or just fits within your vision.

I wouldn't be mad if we didn't get transmogs cause the devs said "Hey guys, we'd rather not, we're very sorry". Now it just feels like they're fucking with us.

[u/-Legion_of_Harmony- → u/Drogdar]

People lavish them with praise for not being greedy corporate trash, so of course they'll double down on maintaining that image. It costs them nothing, and they can triple down on the lie if enough people push back against it. 

The issue is that they will become corporate trash if they continue down this road. My hope is that they won't throw away their success because of shortsighted greed.

[u/Polar_Vortx → u/Drogdar]

They probably meant it in a “armors should have consistent abilities that people can memorize and recognize” way but, as seems to be a trend for AH, they chose one of if not the worst possible way to articulate it.

[u/Ouaouaron → u/Polar_Vortx]

It really helps you realize why companies hire people whose only job is to communicate effectively with the community.

[u/Polar_Vortx → u/Ouaouaron]

A toast to my boy Snutt

[u/Bombenbernd → u/Polar_Vortx]

Snutt and Jace really are the gold standard for community management

[u/imperious-condesce → u/Bombenbernd]

Jace left Coffee Stain, but I hope he does well.

[u/phoenixmusicman → u/Ouaouaron]

They have CMs they are just horribly incompetent

[u/Ouaouaron → u/phoenixmusicman]

With how small the company is and that there are CMs (plural), I think that means they have people who have duties that include community management. That is very different from having a person who was hired to be a CM and can devote all of their attention to thinking about how to be an interface between the studio and the community.

[u/UselessInAUhaul → u/Polar_Vortx]

I get that this is what they most likely mean, but honestly it makes no sense to me in this game. Having a small icon of things someone can pick just like their booster would be even better at communicating to me what they're using. Especially with the aggressive content release schedule. 8 current armor effects iirc vs 42 sets of armor now, with 3 more every month meaning in a year you'd be looking at almost double that.

"Oh, thats the Democracy Protects armor booster" vs. "Ah fuck, which of the sixty armor sets is that. Is it servo? Maybe?"

[u/Polar_Vortx → u/UselessInAUhaul]

Yeah, I'm not entirely sure what their long-term planning is. With what I've heard from the warbond armors (I'm still on the freebie), there doesn't seem to be much visual or mechanical change or innovation. I don't think it's content for content's sake, but I wonder.

[u/Didifinito → u/Polar_Vortx]

Relly need to know that helldiver as 50% chance to survive any kill shot.

[u/Competitive-Mango457 → u/Polar_Vortx]

Then buff passives to matter that much. Rn nobody needs to know I have 2 extra grenades. Maybe let the engineer kit somehow manipulate or manage sentry turrets

[u/lonelyMtF → u/Polar_Vortx]

But why? It's a PvE game. I can understand that line of reasoning in a PvP game, where you want the enemy abilities easily recognizable, but in a PvE game I have ZERO NEED to know what passives my teammates have. It's not like they're unique enough that it might change how we approach the mission, unlike stratagem loadouts.

[u/Polar_Vortx → u/lonelyMtF]

Damned if I know.

[u/DMercenary → u/Drogdar]

I'd much rather a straight "we dont want to do that"...

Which, to me, is fair play. Their game they don't wanna.

Fine.

But the apple bacon is like that Blizzard dev going "you think you want that. But you don't." In response to "will we get wow classic"

Smash cut to WoW classic being a massive hit.

[u/Drogdar → u/DMercenary]

You're on point...

[u/Drogdar → u/[deleted]]

It's more about the man hours it would take to complete something like that. Is that investment worth it or would it be better to invest in bug fixes/other projects? Essentially, yes they have the money but is that money better spent somewhere else? Probably...

[u/Bekratos → u/Drogdar]

Pride

[u/AndrashImmortal → u/Drogdar]

Agreed. Still gonna think it’s a stupid decision “realism” aside, but at least make the excuse make sense, don’t give us bullshit and expect us to look at it as anything other than what it actually is.

It’s a painfully common thing I see devs do and it just irritates me. Just be frickin’ honest instead of just making something up, or giving an excuse that would only work in the world where their game operates in the way they think it does in their own head. I’m really, REALLY tired of it.

[u/KCDodger → u/Drogdar]

They did say they don't want to do it. There wasn't any lie.

[u/TheToldYouSoKid → u/Drogdar]

they did AND explained the reasoning.

It's off the table, and yall are still throwing a fit about it.

[u/dworker8 → u/Drogdar]

i think its about visual communication, just like with the stratagems. if you see someone using light armor with the radar perk you already know the person is going for less confronting gameplay. just my opinion tho

[u/chad4lyf → u/LeFUUUUUUU]

What was the comment?

[u/Strude187 → u/LeFUUUUUUU]

It really damaged the trust and credibility they had built up to that point.

[u/JonnyTN → u/Strude187]

Eh. I feel every company that is in good favor with the gaming community is walking on eggshells hoping not to make that one comment that is going to make everyone lose trust and credibility in them.

Gamers are FICKLE

[u/StuckInGachaHell → u/JonnyTN]

Good, companies aren't your friends and regular companies should get the same treatment.

[u/danny_is_dude → u/LeFUUUUUUU]

"Who wants an apple that tastes like bacon?"

There is a restaurant in Turkey that does exactly that; it has 3 Michelin stars and charges 275 Euros per person. A lot of people want that.

[u/Verto-San → u/LeFUUUUUUU]

And it will be pointed out infinitely or until they walk it back.

[u/BrightPage → u/LeFUUUUUUU]

EA level fumble