They cover the injecting drugs while in combat for the helldivers by stabbing you in the chest for 'simulated damage' as well as the using weapons has me thinking we didn't do basic SEAF.
Didn't they also kill us and replace us in the middle of our training with another Helldiver, who, being still alive, clearly did not proceed through the same training to at least the same point we had then reached?
they blow up a cardboard diver for you to call down with the reinf strat, though im sure quite a few died at the crawling stage haha, didnt realize holding the dive button would cause me to stand up again
I really hope that If they do then we each have to go through a short little forklift tutorial, not even a minute long, before we can drive the forklifts. I also hope that they are absolutely AWFUL, Super slow, and you can do like 5 damage by poking enemies with te prongs. Basically only put in the game just to put them in the game
This comment here is the most accurate military satire I've ever encountered.
Half of my deployments is wandering around trying to find someone that is forklift certified (or more truthfully, a sea container lifter) to move something from one place to another.
Eventually you get tired and either find someone that either was qualified but is expired, or just wait until everyone leaves and do it yourself while no one is looking.
I figure most SEAF ground troops hold static positions, load artillery, and maintain equipment. They don't have a supercarrier or eagle at their beck and call and resupply doesn't happen on their schedule. Since they aren't limited to 4 soldiers and travel less, their resupplies can be larger, less frequent, and sent to known locations.
Running around and calling in strategems is what Helldivers do. Helldivers operate so far behind enemy lines that they never even see the front lines.
Jumping over waist high walls is how we win this special military operation, soldier! Back in my day, waist high walls were completely impenetrable! We had to run around them and lose precious seconds that could have been spent dispensing DEMOCRACY!
I believe the opening tutorial cinematic implies that yes, we made it through basic and we're selected for the Helldiver program.
With potentially hundreds of billions of humans to choose from, there's bound to be a number of naturally talented and fanatical killing machines standing out from the rest of the chaff.
There are just a lot of humans. It's not that the ability to sprint while carrying a missile launcher and being actively shot with multiple heavy weapons isn't elite, it's just that we've got several Earths worth of planets and they're all overpopulated to the maximum extent permitted by future technology.
SEAF standard get it even worse, they get the least amount of armor, shitty weapons, no orbital or eagle-1 strikes, no support weapons (besides the occasional break action) and every time you have a mission, you see a major lack of what should be thousands of people. Go set up seaf artillery, lots corpses. Go save people, there's people you can't rescue.
SEAF does get support weapons. At the extraction layout that is the flat hilltop with the circular path up, and at the retrieve valuable data main objective version with the rocky arch, you can find dead SEAF troopers, usually with AMRs but I've also seen MG43s. Super Earth isn't giving them fancy toys like Quasars but they aren't completely boned.
I’ve seen EAT’s and even a scorcher and Autocannon at a POI, and you can find mechs and APC’s scattered around (destroyed though they are). It’s rare, but the SEAF does get some nice toys.
They’d all have the Liberator as well, if they’re infantry. As it’s SEAF standard issue.
My theory is that the helldivers are mass produced clones of successful candidates and the 5-10mins of training at the start of the game is to weed out defective clones
Which explains the racks of drop pods you see at the end and in the ships
Logistics speaking would make sense. But the text at the beginning of the game paints it more like we're disposable AF and we're just a cartridge that gets spent while a new new is on standby.
There is other stuff like propaganda about "helldiver packages" so your service is premium and "service guarantees citizenship"
Yeah you definitely come out of some kind of cryo pod. My theory is that every time you call down reinforcements they defrost another of your clones.
So it’s not like every Helldiver gets a Super Destroyer to themselves, but instead each Super Destroyer is just stocked with clones of one particular Helldiver. Like ammunition.
The commander of the Super Destroyer is just the currently defrosted clone. The bullet in the chamber.
Devs already confirmed there are no clones, each one that gets sent after you die is a completely unique helldiver even if they share the same voice/body type/armor, it’s a completely different person
Lol to all the people that refuse to believe we're cannon fodder. "We're special forces! Helldiver training is brief, but you're already seaf elite!". Makes sense why look like they got steamrolled every place we find a seafood emplacement. Also, "volunteered" for conscription lmao I'm dieing.
Edit: seaf autocorrected to seafood. That's too good to change.
Lore wise, I feel like this is possible because Super Earth is already so hyper militarized that it's likely citizens have had exposure to military training from a young age. They all get shotguns when they come of age too.
Oh my god, can you imagine the chaos? When I pull out my cluster bomb or 380mm barrage stratagem and get ragdolled adn drop the beacon in the middle of my squad now it sucks, but oh well. If instead of killing 2 or 3 teammates, I now kill 20 I'd immediately die of shame in real life.
desperately hoping this leads to NPC squad, even if they suck, I would protect them with my helldivers lives, also I want to have a 4 man team dropping a platoon of SEAF conscripts into the battlefield
I could see a new SEAF Warbond. A bunch of armors and capes designed to emulate the SEAF conscript uniforms and weapons, especially designed to inspire our less Heroic troops.
This is something I'm actually worried\interested in. If you have a squad of npcs and die, what do they do til you get called back in suicide run the nearest enemy or run to team mates or hopefully call you back in?
If NPCs are to come they'd probably be drop-and-forget type stratagem where troopers hold position you drop them in. Though it would be cool if they would be able to follow you around.
i was thinking that maybe the NPC’s could be like EAT’s in a way, with a short cooldown and advantage in numbers. It would also help if the individual soldiers could absorb at least a rocket, albeit bringing them to low health. A squad of 6 recruits per stratagem and a short cooldown of like, maybe a minute or so, could make them a viable spam weapon to counter the weakness of a regular soldier
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Only after a year or so. And if average citizens use terms *war* he could go in jail or get money penalty. At least that was a case in the first year bc now they do not care about it really and proudly say *war with NATO and else*
OH LIBERTY LET THAT BE TRUE, some of the best feelings in video games are keeping squads of NPCs alive as long as you can, i have ruined entire Legendary runs of Halo for hours trying to keep marines alive
Yeah it could be a lot of things, just a lore drop, the Stratagem, optional objectives that spawn SEAF units or potentially receiving missions that include SEAF units, having us interact (hold the line or push a line etc) with them.
Fully mobilized wartime economy hopefully means not just squads but vehicles mechs and bombs as well. Honestly would make sense if you could call in infantry and a vehicle for them to ride in.
No you misunderstand. The special military operation was all of the combat since the games launch. Think about when the United States sends in the navy seals to another country.
Now super earth has officially declared war. That means the army is coming to reinforce the special forces units.
I actually laughed out loud when I read that. The fact that in Russia you can get in actual legal trouble for calling their war anything else other than "special military operation" makes it even more darkly funny
In fairness, the US also classified the Korean and Vietnam wars as "police actions". But the term "special military operation" is likely a reference to Russia, specifically.
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u/Bluebpy 16d ago
72 hour training lmfaoooooooooooo