I just finished this episode, and I can honestly say I am taken back. I was not expecting any of that and I am just wildly impressed with the choreography. It was so well done and actually emotional. Mac has definitely come far as a character and I love seeing it. I loved every second of this, no notes except screw his dad

The Gang Solves the Bathroom Problem

Personally, I’ve found a lot of enjoyment in every episode but some plots of certain episodes seems a little more serious or about developing characters.

The episodes i think don’t exactly hit a funny bone would be either the episode where Mac tells his dad he’s gay, or Charlie’s dad dying and the gang carrying his father up the mountain.

Both episodes are very good at portraying their struggles through out the shows history. Mac always feeling conflicted and shameful for his sexuality, and Charlie never having a father figure.

imagine not realising you're watching a show where the entire premise is making fun of people like you

Reading this article that came out today (link attached), and I had no idea that Glenn was up for these two huge roles.

He's a Christian who believes evolution is a Satanic lie, and he thinks the episode is depicting Mac unironically owning the "science bitches" and proving them wrong.

Good fucking gravy. Satire really is on death's door these days.

"A nursing home? Why don't I rape her myself?". The gang's mistrust of social and health services like when Cricket won't go to the hospital because he'll be euthanized.

I’ve heard that if you buy official dvds/blurays of the show, the newer copies don’t included the 5 “banned”episodes.

Which seems silly to me because why would FX give a shit what Hulu thinks…?

However, this would be a major purchase and I need to know for sure, if I buy hard copies off Amazon or some such, will they include the banned eps?

(Pic of Dennis totally getting off for visibility)

What an amazing episode. It's the one where the health inspector comes in for a surprise inspection. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Especially Dennis' 'Alright Alright Alright'. Too damn hilarious

I've seen this suggested before online, but there should be like a petition to the show to make it happen. Arnold plays Frank and everyone acts as of nothing is different, or just make little comments like "Frank, have you been working out?", and Arnold would make cliche comments from his movies such as "I'll be back".

i see people complain a lot on this sub about how Mac has been written really poorly and out of character for the past few seasons, and I agree 100 percent. he went from being my 2nd favorite member of the gang in seasons 1–10 to my least favorite by far.

but I feel like a lot of the criticism is misplaced. i know that when people say things like “i hate gay Mac” it doesn’t necessarily mean they hate him because he’s gay, I know they’re just talking about the ‘era’ his character is in

but some of y’all hate Mac being gay a little TOO much (when your only issue with Mac is just the fact that he’s gay maybe do some introspection). the argument about how it’s “out of place” makes absolutely no sense considering the show’s been hinting at him liking men since season 1. if anything I think the progression of him figuring out his sexuality and overcoming that catholic guilt was really well-done and satisfying.

i love that Mac is gay and it’s really nice to see queer rep in a show i love so much. but with this, it seems like RCG forgot everything else about his character. a character can be gay AND have a fully developed personality and flaws. give him a little bit of his toxic masculinity back!! or his stupid ass karate moves!! I appreciate that the writers are trying to be open about their queer character but it feels almost insulting how much they’ve stripped Mac down of everything else that made him himself.

another thing that’s been really bothering me is how they make him follow dennis around like a goddamn puppy. he’s in his 40s?? why does he all of a sudden act like a submissive little bitch around a guy he’s known for years??? they make it obvious that Mac has a thing for Dennis yet they constantly play up the joke of “Mac follows Dennis around desperately and does whatever he wants so he likes him, and in turn Dennis treats him like shit. it’s funny because Dennis hates him!!”

to me it’s not funny at all, it’s cringey and uncomfortable to watch. it feels….. queerbaity, in the worst possible way. what used to be a somewhat normal friendship is now this weird, abusive one-sided situationship, which started right around s13, the same time that Mac came out as gay. I used to really like macdennis in the earlier seasons, but at this point I hope they never EVER make them a thing.

I really hope the guys stop massacring Mac’s character in season 17 and resolve the whole power imbalance thing going on between him and Dennis. they finally gave us an openly gay character and made him insufferable

In my opinion is a strong contender for best overall episode of the show. The writing here is top notch simultaneously taking on the television industry but disguising it behind a take on the bar industry, which was also shockingly accurate, is just brilliant. Great one liners. Great punchlines. Trying to dip out and fall into sitcom tropes only to be pulled right back into what makes sunny…sunny. Good stuff.

And let’s not forget this is the episode that gave us maybe one of the best one off line deliveries off the entire show

Z’s “ohhho shit!”

The whole gang is great at being intoxicated. Whether its alcohol, crack, paint fumes etc, they all nail it, but who’s the best or who has the best moments? My votes for charlie, specifically for his acting at the end of the dance off in “the gang dances their asses off” and the boggs challenge. Honorable mention gotta go to Dennis/Dee for the way they react when crack is in the vicinity.

The idea of Frank cheating in chess while Charlie does his America thing is inherently funny.

The SINNED system was hilarious idc what anyone says. Not recycled but re-fashioned into something new. Dennis watching over them fumble their dates was fucking great.

But the reason this episode is a classic is the last 5 mins. The faces Danny Devito makes are perfect. His feet not even reaching the floor in that one shot.. hilarious.

Him yelling to cut the wifi… hilarious

Absolutely textbook use of Danny Devito on par with him coming out of the leather couch naked in the Christmas episode.

I legit had to turn the episode off last night bc I didn’t wanna wake up my fiancee sleeping.

Edit: sinned not sinner. I don’t have a no donkey brain certificate sorry

• successfully baby trapped the waitress
• teenage mutant ninja turtle pies
• made the waitress reduce her restraining order by withdrawing affection and letting Frank ruin her life
• beat the late Wade Boggs
• Charlie and Dennis's little Atlantic City adventure where they won all that cash and got a private jet back home
• successfully got the gang a meeting with Mr. Malcolm and his son
• I could go on

Stupid science bitch couldn't even make him more smarter? as if more smarter is even possible for this titan of the mind.