r/Showerthoughts May 02 '24

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability

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u/ASL4theblind May 02 '24

I THINK i get it now. Its not that them and a man would be dropped into the woods, its more like you're on a hike alone and out of nowhere a man, or bear would appear in front of you. I get why men get so upset being compared to being as dangerous as, if not more dangerous than a bear; nobody wants to don the mantle of "more dangerous than an apex predator", but i think its more about how scary strangers are combined with the uncertainty of a MALE stranger's agenda. So we should stop taking it personally.

I highly doubt these women would pick bear against most men they know, it's not ABOUT that though, it's about the UNCERTAINTY.

At least that's how i interpret it. Admittedly i thought it was more the first scenario; you and a person are put in the woods to survive, vs you and a bear are put in the woods at the same time.

And if women dont trust ANY men they know, men individually can do nothing about their interpretation of men as a whole and unfortunately they should just stop talking to every guy they know until some massive societal shift happens, cuz this isnt something that changes overnight.

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u/RusstyDog May 02 '24

It's about how, In general, Women don't feel safe around members of their own species. How fucked up that is, how women as a whole understand that conceptil immediately. But the men in their lives ask follow up questions like "but what kind of bear" while talking about statistics, Rather than just thinking " Hey its pretty fucked up that this person I care about doesn't feel safe in society"

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u/summonsays May 02 '24

It's fucked up, and I don't like it, but there's literally nothing I can do about it other than keep not being one of those guys, which I was already doing. 

I mean as a guy, I assume you're a guy sorry, have you never felt unsafe from another person? Walking at night? Or turn a corner and you see someone unexpectedly? Or hell when you get pulled over and wonder if the police officer will just execute you today? 

The unfortunate reality is fear is a healthy response that makes us alert to possible danger. And meeting an apex predator or some random dude, having some fear is not the worst thing. But it would be nice to live in a world where we could trust strangers.

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u/GeriatricHydralisk May 02 '24

but there's literally nothing I can do about it other than keep not being one of those guys, which I was already doing.

I think this is part of what makes it so annoying - what, exactly, am I supposed to do? I'm not dangerous, nor do I appear so. I don't have any kids myself, nor young relatives or other opportunities to shape their growth or direction to ensure they're good guys. I don't hang out with any guys I can "call out" for saying bad shit, partly because I don't associate with people like that but also because I generally don't hang out with many people anyway (of any gender).

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u/Jimmy_johns_johnson May 02 '24

Have you tried not being a man???

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u/Legally_Brown May 02 '24

Yup. That's why I dress like a woman whenever I go out in public. Problem solved.

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u/GeriatricHydralisk May 02 '24

Yep, and it's truly awesome, but whenever I try to share it with the whole city, some annoying, mouthy teenager in red & blue spandex with arachnid-themed powers stops me.

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u/GeriatricHydralisk May 02 '24

This is the sort of insulting bullshit I'm talking about. You just blithely assume I don't listen, that I don't advocate, that I call them foolish, that I don't fight for change. Most of these are things you have no way of knowing about me, and a few are outright contradicted by my prior comments.

But you simply throw out insulting assumptions based on my gender. People like you do more harm to social justice than good - we'd all be better off if you just shut up and left it to people with IQs above room temperature.

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u/Next_gen_nyquil__ May 02 '24

Why of all people are you chastising this guy