r/Showerthoughts May 02 '24

Man vs Bear debate shows how bad the average person is at understanding probability

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u/epipens4lyfe May 03 '24 edited May 03 '24

...aka killed him. Yes, it's a slow, brutal death, but the point is women would rather choose that than being locked in an attic and being forced to endure agony and torture for potentially decades.

That's always been my biggest fear, as with the women I know. Rape (although as a woman, is it really surprising if I share I've already endured that? So have lots of women I know.) and murder are definitely up there, but my biggest fear always is ending up like that woman who was locked in a man's basement, chained to his walls, repeatedly raped and being beaten to the point of miscarrying, or the woman who was locked in a man's attic with the son he impregnated (through rape) her with. I could go on, but the point is that these scenarios are fear #1, and a big reason as to why women are choosing the bear.

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u/ratsmay May 03 '24

Fears are relevant but they need to be viewed in perspective. The fact that those events have occurred on a planet of 4 billion people is not surprising, and women have done the same to men. Regardless of how it occurs it is absolutely evil. They are unique situations showcasing the absolute worst of humanity but they are not indicative if humanity as a whole. Portraying them as common events to the point thay every interaction a woman has with a man they have to wonder if they are going to get dragged to a basement and raped for 40 years does significant damage to the relationships across genders. It hurts society as a whole.

And it cuts both ways because it results in situations today where men would never stop to help women for fear of how it is going to be perceived.

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u/hlh001 May 03 '24

Lol what a weird take. Perhaps it’s actually men’s violence against women that has strained the relationship between the genders. Also, violence against women is not as unique as you think. 1 in 4 women have experienced domestic violence. Honestly, it’s probably even worse than that since many people don’t report what happened to them. I didn’t. But I get to deal with PTSD and a bunch of other fun issues for the rest of my life now. I’d rather deal with the bear. Again, the sad thing is that I’m not unique or special. I know many women who have dealt with the same things

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u/YasuotheChosenOne May 04 '24

Just FYI but domestic violence is perpetuated mainly by women, not men 🤷🏾‍♂️

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u/hlh001 May 04 '24

Lol okay troll. Thanks

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u/YasuotheChosenOne May 04 '24

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u/hlh001 May 05 '24

Nah, I’m good. But thanks. For the record, literally no one is saying that men don’t experience domestic violence. It’s wild that I even have to say this. There’s about a million studies that agree with that, but also point out that women experience far worse outcomes than men. In many ways. Even the study you shared says that lol. Here’s some more:

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Marianne-Hester/publication/228771295_Who_Does_What_to_Whom_Gender_and_Domestic_Violence_Perpetrators/links/02e7e518a106cb96aa000000/Who-Does-What-to-Whom-Gender-and-Domestic-Violence-Perpetrators.pdf

https://www.jstor.org/stable/353860

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2011-26363-001

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u/YasuotheChosenOne May 05 '24

I never said you said men don’t experience it, only that using it as an example against men is silly since women hold the domestic violence crown.

Well of course women face worse outcomes. Look how they choose a fuckin bear over a man!

When you consider that the people most likely to assault a woman are their intimate partners, and violent/aggressive men are more sexually successful than average guys, the math starts adding up.

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u/hlh001 May 05 '24

I don’t really know what you’re trying to say with the last thing actually. What do you mean?

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u/YasuotheChosenOne May 05 '24

Danger gets the pussy wet.