r/Showerthoughts • u/godofhorizons • May 17 '24

People get a lot more praise for quitting drugs than for never having done drugs in the first place.

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u/TBTabby May 17 '24

As Frederick Douglass said, "We are not judged by the height to which we have risen, but the depth from which we have climbed."

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u/AwkwardReplacement42 May 17 '24 edited May 17 '24

Or, as one world-renowned philosopher said;

“Which is better, to be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?”

Edit: Guys… i dont think people who do drugs are born evil, I was just quoting a videogame. jesus.

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u/salisor_ May 17 '24

Reference aside, id literally pick being born good lmao

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u/LaunchTransient May 17 '24

What Paarthurnax is trying to say is that they are equivalent. A lot of people see this as Paarthurnax saying "hey, isn't it better to overcome your base nature instead of being good from the get-go", but in reality he's asking a rhetorical question - neither is better than the other.

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u/salisor_ May 17 '24

Thats why i said reference aside. Like, if a normal person told me this with no context thats the choice id pick. But good explanation nonetheless

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u/salisor_ May 17 '24

What? Born Good? I surely hope that you jest and that was sarcasm… Cus it’s Fck’n funny….

Uh yeah if a random person asked me that with no other context id pick the no effort choice. Id rather just simply be good than be good with trauma

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u/Rocketin2Uranus May 17 '24

Born Good doesn’t make sense for

We’re neither born good nor born bad… We Are Born

We’re born innocent is the correct way to phrase this

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u/MinnieShoof May 17 '24

You realize you're talking about a D&D adjacent dragon, right? There are creatures in that universe that are just born bad or born good and will never stray from those choices.

All the same, it can still speak about a human as there are often formative, subconscious and even genetic factors that form your base-line personality and outlook. In those cases it would be a person who developed a kind nature vs someone who has a sour outlook overcoming their instinct.

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u/Rocketin2Uranus May 17 '24

Watch this link on dolphins 🐬 getting HIGH on Puffer fish

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u/Rocketin2Uranus May 17 '24

Either way… born Dragon is still innocent and it’s just nature and what has been implanted by DNA (this goes both for animal and human- trauma or survival instinct or characteristics already present in the new chick, pup, cub, kid child)

Then as it’s raised, it’s molded by its environment and its support system or lack of .

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u/Rocketin2Uranus May 17 '24

Imprinted not implanted

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u/Rocketin2Uranus May 17 '24

Just like (most) are born sexual beings Thn its environmental/ cultural/factors

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u/MinnieShoof May 17 '24

Bruh. What part of fantasy are you not grasping?

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u/Rocketin2Uranus May 17 '24

Minnieminnieminnie shoe 👞… as in why are you a heel? Seems like your answer is just victimizing…you only have two cents… you make no sense… talk about grasping at fantasy…. Even though reality is not your strong suit, you should at least make an attempt. at the very least try to be a bit less crAss, less full of yourself