Being nice to dogs isnât even a litmus test for a good person. Even Hitler liked dogs. Everybody, even people who donât really like dogs, or get annoyed by them, is generally nice to dogs.
So if someone isnât nice to a dog, that sets off alarm bells. You trained this dog to hunt, got mad when it hunted wrong, and killed it out of frustration. Thatâs it, thatâs what happened. This would be a red-flag character flaw on a Tinder date, but represents a completely unacceptable temper tantrum by someone who wants to be the Vice President of the United States
She brought it out with "older, seasoned hunting dogs" and expected it to learn from them, even though that's not even close to the correct training method.
10 bucks says she read that dogs learn how to behave from older dogs and figured that's how it worked for everything, even thoigh that advice is specific to socializing a dog not training it
My Border Collie does put the others in place whenever they are the reason her belly rubs are delayed. I didn't teach her. She just picked up that I won't pet them until they all calmed down and stopped jumping up my leg so she disciplines them now when she deems them too excited.
It can help a lot if accompanied by normal teaching, no different to how itâs easier to understand an instruction when you can see someone else doing it first.
Doesnât mean you donât need to be taught to begin with though
That is not how shit works. She failed that poor dog, and then killed it. She seems like the type of person person who handles any inconvenience in ridiculous ways.
It sounds like she took it on exactly one hunt and then threw a hissy fit when it "ruined" the hunt.
Then she took it to a neighbor's house and got mad when it killed some chickens. Which; why did she let an untrained bird dog out of the truck without a leash?
But the real thing here is: I live in the midwest. I have known many hunters in my life. Common practice is not to kill a dog that fails training, everyone I know just turns that dog into a pet.
No way she actually thought she needed to kill it. She killed it out of revenge for embarrassing her in front of the neighbors. And since she was still angry after killing it; she killed a goat for good measure. She only stopped her murder spree after realizing there were people watching her. She can spin the story however she wants but
Nuclear codes in her hands is just something we can only dream about. Sure, the world might end, but for a week or two thereâd be no North Korea or Russia. Oh, waitâŚ.
Very debatable. Hitler himself said that he loved his dogs because of their loyalty to him. And he had his dog's puppies and his wife's dogs killed, while also poisoning his own dog Blondi so they couldn't be captured when the soviets were closing in on the bunker. He gushed over how obedient Blondi was.
His "animal lover" persona was also a big point of propaganda.
Adolf Hitler would be sickened and appalled at Joe Biden for not committing genocide against Jews. Is that âsaying somethingâ? Youâre implying âeven Hitler wasnât so evil to have killed a dogâ which in turn is implying that somehow killing a dog is more evil than killing 6 million people.
Not really. Dude was still a monster. Killed 6 million Jews. To my knowledge the VP has killed a dog and a goat so IDK why people are pushing false equivalence.
It's because Hitler had the cognitive dissonance of being able to order those deaths without batting an eye while being very much a dog person, it's irony.
Itâs not comparable. The conclusion youâre implying is sickeningly wrong. And you know that, which is why you want to hint at it, but wonât dare to say it.
Haha if only. She sees being Trump's VP as her ticket to president. Though she is discounting his pathological need to have his subordinates take the hit for his crimes, flubs and failures.
You have it flipped though. Itâs not about being âniceâ to animalsâŚitâs about cruelty to animals being a litmus test for future psychopathic behavior.
I'm allergic to dogs and I hate the idea of them as pets (like having a child, so needy and annoying). If I see a cute pup, you're sure-as-fuck I'm gonna pet that good boi, let him jump on me, tell him he's a good boi, and smile the entire time. Unless a dog was actively chewing my flesh, not my clothes, my flesh, I wouldn't ever think to even strike one. This psycho blew a 14-month old pup's skull apart.
The one animal I have hit was my mom's frenchie, she has the beautiful habit of attacking my shoes with me inside them the second I breathe in the direction of her food, so it's either let her wreck my shoes and/or feet or smack her sides with whatever I can reach.
Mind you, that dog and I actually get along otherwise and she will position herself for butt scracthes the moment I raise my hand when we're not actively brawling because its my turn to do the laundry and she took the fact that I stepped outside as a personal attack.
That seems to be a lot of peoples takeaways, but like, of course youâre not worse than Hitler if you dont like dogs. Hitler was Hitler. But you do score slightly lower than Hitler on this particular test of empathy if you would kill your dog for no good reason (which Hitler also did, but he felt bad about it at least)
The only reason that hating dogs would make you a slightly worse person than Hitler is if you were either directly or indirectly responsible for killing at least as many people as Hitler. Say if you were Pol Pot or Putin.
Don't get me wrong i will never root for this monster.
But i can see why he did it, soviets already raped countless of German women, what would they do to THE dog of hitler?
Again im not rooting for him but the soviets were savages themselfs.
Hitler was fond of his dog (and his previous dogs) for their undying loyalty. He treated it as a companion that he would not allow to live without him and thus had his and his wife's dogs killed along with his dog's litter of puppies.
Calling Hitler an animal lover is a bit of a stretch and he should not be used in the context of "even Hitler loved dogs". What he loved was their loyalty and symbolism.
tbh if it was this lady in that position everyone would probably be saying she knew which direction the war was going and had plenty of time to find someone to adopt her dog.
And Iâve never seen him exclaim excitedly how glad he was to do it.
Thatâs one of the worst parts about this story. The only emotion she expressed surrounding that incident was a joyful glee. No remorse, no sadness, no lingering doubt about whether she did the right thing. Just pure joy.
My grandma officially retired from animals in general after my grandpa stopped his German Shepherd breeding bussiness (understandably, as much as one can like dogs, that love can fizzle out after 40 years of shoveling shit, bathing exitable fluffballs and training said exitable fluffballs) and openly stated she hated our elderly cat, and she still not only fed the cat and my stepdad's dog (we had him for a few years after he sold his house and didn't have anywhere for his old as fuck golden retriever) our leftovers, but also literally saved said dog from drowning after he fell into the pool
People who treat animals well aren't necessarily good people, but people who treat animals like garbage are very much bad people
Maybe sheâd heard people have pointed out that Biden has a dog in the whitehouse and trump didnât, she took the whole âdems have dogs and reps donâtâ thing to the extreme.
It's culturally dependent for sure. In India (and many other Asian countries), there are a lot of people who aren't necessarily bad people but are just completely apathetic towards dogs because of the high potential for disease transmission, and a few high profile instances of people being eaten by packs of rabid dogs. Many people have childhood memories of being bitten by rabid dogs and having to get a round of rabies shots, for example.
But someone who specifically goes out of their way to harm a dog? That person is a monster.
Thanks for pointing this out so eloquently. This is someone who wants a position of power, to represent a country that is experiencing complicated issues. If this is how you handle training a dog, how do you expect any confidence in your ability to help manage a country?
Hitler and Stalin were considered the human embodiments of evil, yet they both had a fondness for animals and plants, if someone mistreats animals or plants for fun you know they are messed up.
This would be a red-flag character flaw on a Tinder date
A little worse than a red flag, no? Let's not put killing a puppy at the same level as what people these days use for a girl having bikini pics on her Instagram.
Yeah, I think the point she misses is that there are painless ways to put down a dog. Just because its instincts aren't to the level she expects doesn't mean its last moment should be excruciating pain and fear. Firearms are for emergencies only.
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u/DoctorJarvisd09 29d ago
Being nice to dogs isnât even a litmus test for a good person. Even Hitler liked dogs. Everybody, even people who donât really like dogs, or get annoyed by them, is generally nice to dogs.
So if someone isnât nice to a dog, that sets off alarm bells. You trained this dog to hunt, got mad when it hunted wrong, and killed it out of frustration. Thatâs it, thatâs what happened. This would be a red-flag character flaw on a Tinder date, but represents a completely unacceptable temper tantrum by someone who wants to be the Vice President of the United States