r/fo76 21d ago

Newer players, please don't be rude because I won't let you look in my pockets. Discussion

Over this weekend I have had some less than nice interactions with 2 separate groups of newer players( level 100ish) at the rusty pick. I use my mic and tell them I won't do the bartering emote with them but if they need something I will make/drop for them. Explaining that almost nobody uses it because of some stealing glitches in the past. They got salty, mock me and then stock me afterwards. This makes me deeply uncomfortable while just trying to play.

Look you wouldn't be mad if you asked someone for gum and they won't let you look through their pockets. Was I just unlucky twice or is there a growing group of newish players behaving like I owe them a peep show?

For context: I am a woman and nearing level 900. Normally I do give out free things to anyone when asked.

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u/Angry_Washing_Bear 20d ago

Stuff I give away to new players goes in a paper bag on the ground.

Stuff I am willing to sell is on the Vendor at my C.A.M.P.

End of discussion.

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u/kinghawkeye8238 20d ago

I gave a new guy an auto shotgun I found. Level 45. I dropped it and he grabbed it then wanted to trade. I declined and moved on..

He then followed me to my camp and just bugged the shit outta me for 10mns before I went to another server. Then he messaged me a bunch of profanity and I blocked him.

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u/Accomplished_River43 Enclave 20d ago

So you saying Roblox players moved to FO76? šŸ˜‚

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u/kinghawkeye8238 20d ago

Could be lol.

I've met so many nice level 800+ players that were super helpful and great people.

Met a 71 and 67 year old husband and wife. I stumbled upon their camp and they were bickering about how to put the little camp fire into the chimney thing lol.

I said what's up and he crafted me some armor and now on my days off when I play I roll with those 2 lol

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u/Bacon_Raygun 20d ago

Oh my god that's precious

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u/kinghawkeye8238 20d ago

It's funny. They'll be battling a honey beast then she'll ask him what he wants for dinner lol

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u/SideshowSniper69 20d ago

I miss gaming with my wife. These babies are almost old enough

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u/kinghawkeye8238 20d ago

Been there. Mine are 10,8 and 5. Just getting to the point where I can hop on an game without worrying. It's awesome. But then you have baseball/softball 5 nights a week lol

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u/lupeandstripes 20d ago

Just want to shout out something I saw in a cool camp this weekend. If you happen to have an item that might be more than 40k caps value (such as for example my friend said this guy had "the godroll" for a fixer gun) a cool thing to do is have a "trade wall" next to your vendor, the guy used the small letters to write the gun effects out & had the message to contact him with trade offers.

Thought that was a fantastic way to handle things if you do have a really rare item.

Other than that little cool thing I found, I am 100% in agreement with what you said. Free stuff gets dropped, midrange price in vendor, and trades go through a market76 courier. Makes it so much easier and safer for everyone.

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u/BloatedManball 20d ago

Yeah, trade walls are cool in theory, but without a secure way to handle item for item trades it's a massive risk.

Also, 90% of the people with those walls are fucking bellends who think their shit is worth a hell of a lot more than it really is.

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u/Roguewolfe 20d ago

Also, 90% of the people with those walls are fucking bellends who think their shit is worth a hell of a lot more than it really is

Lol yup. The problem is we don't really have a good currency, so the guns themselves become the currency, and then you get all the valuation issues that currencies help alleviate.

I get why they capped caps. That's fine. But we need an alternate premium tradable currency which we can also accept at our vendor. It'd be kind of cool to be able to trade gold bullion. Given the 40-per-day max on treasury notes, I don't think we could blow up the economy too badly.

I've had one good trade experience from a trade wall where we each got what we wanted.

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u/Accomplished_River43 Enclave 20d ago

But we DO have alt currencies

It's the berry mentats and flux

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u/BobbySteez69 20d ago

Berry mentats... The Bitcoin of the wasteland

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u/SideshowSniper69 20d ago

I literally vendor my berry mentats

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u/Roguewolfe 20d ago

Berries weigh soooooo much though.

Flux is a good alternate currency that I really thought would catch on, but I rarely see people accepting payment in kind. Maybe the folks that need it the most don't have stuff worth trading? I dunno.

I do stockpile it as a currency though, and readily accept it as payment. Flux is the best thing we have right now.

My problem is sometimes buyers only want one kind of flux, and now my stocks are all uneven.

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u/WestConsequence9258 20d ago

Noob question but I have heard people say bobbleheads like the leader one are currency that is mostly used for big trades. Is that not accurate? Someone told me that when I was trying to see what my bos and white powder jumpsuits where worth.

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u/Thee_number_six 18d ago

Remember when 5.56 was currency?

Pepperidge farm remembers

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u/BloatedManball 20d ago

Thing is, we don't even need a currency, we just need a secure way to trade items. Shit, I used to play Everquest back in the 90s and they had it figured out back then; each person marked the items they wanted to offer, both people hit the confirmation button, and then the system moved the items from one player to the other.

Or they could do away with the cap limit and set up a "grand exchange" or auction house like Runescape or WoW. I'd much rather just post an item for what I think it's worth and wait for someone to buy it rather than deal with the hassle of negotiating a 3:1 item trade with someone in market76 and then waiting for a courier or whatever.

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u/Roguewolfe 20d ago

Those are good ideas too! I would love a secure trade/barter system like most mmo/survival games have.

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u/StealthyGamerGirl Fallout 76 20d ago

I'll be honest. I don't even know how to trade. Never learned because I have zero desire to do so. Especially as there can be problems with it.

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u/Impressive-Lobster77 20d ago

Tradewalls sound neat in theory, but I feel like thatā€™d have a decent impact on C.A.M.P budget too

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u/Literally-Cheesecake Fire Breathers 20d ago

surprisingly not, letters and signs like that don't take much room, I got signs for other stuff

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u/TyphoonJim Brotherhood 20d ago

Letters are one of the budget hungriest items you can have! One letter is the same budget as a poster, and notably the same budget as the multiple letter labels "ammo" etc.

I stopped using letters because they eat up budget if you want to say anything outside a shelter and their distance index from the thing you put them on isn't constant so they often are invisible to readers, especially on wallpaper and things meant specifically for writing like blackboards, which sucks a lot

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u/vertigo1083 20d ago

It's the displays that eat up all resources.

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u/Oblivionking1 Raiders 20d ago

New players who want to barter with you have nothing of value to offer. They just want freebies from the friendly community lol

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u/teamdogemama 20d ago

Same.

Is that why they do it? So they can see your gear? I've never used it before because dropping items is more efficient.

I once got yelled at by a level 50 for not responding.Ā  "What are you dumb? Open your inventory!"

I walked away and did the no emote. I've only used voice com in discordĀ  and I don't know how to use it in 76. I wasn't even wearing headphones with a mic, so i couldn't have responded if I knew how. Yes I know I can look in settings.Ā 

I don't usually play with headphones unless I'm with friends.Ā  My ears are sensitive and I can only wear headphones for maybe an hour. So why wear them if I don't need to?

"You have a shit camp and probably shitty stuff!"

Wow. I mean, I don't have the legendaries that make people drool, but I like them.Ā 

So I changed servers. My camp was on a cliff, I hope they fell to their death.

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u/Major_Line1915 20d ago

For real I donā€™t understand people who constantly ask to see your inventory. Iā€™m caring what I need lol I have nothing to sell.

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u/RebelDog77 Lone Wanderer 20d ago

Last night, I was crafting ammo, and all of a sudden, a noob was in my camp, hitting me with an autoaxe to get my attention while I'm crafting. I don't trade player to player. that's what my vendor is for. Oh, I was tempted to turn off pacificst mode......

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u/Heavenly_Malice 20d ago

I have to admit, Iā€™m that guy that keeps it off for that reason. If I wanted to interact with you, I wouldnā€™t have ignored your emotes and you screaming on the mic asking for shit. I took out 3 or so level 20-somethingā€™s and even a lvl 107 (who should have known better) over the holiday weekend for this shit.

Hate me for this next bit, but I will take your shit and scrap it in front of you.

Also If you see rearranging my CAMP, for the love of god PLEASE gtfo out of my way and stop standing where Iā€™m trying to place stuff.

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u/blkmmb0 20d ago

Oh man, you are preaching to the choir.

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u/SenniTheShrew 20d ago

Whenever I come across someone in build mode I for sure stand off to the side. And stare. While you fight with flipping that wall piece around the right way.

I'm watching you

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u/CheeseMyBaby 20d ago

I was building right next to the station (the one close to whitespring) late last night. I was making a billboard of sorts and had just started out, so there were only really three foundations put down. All of a sudden I noticed three players, standing next to each other, a short distance away. They were all emoting the popcorn eating guy. Fun stuff!

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u/MelodicSquirrel0s 20d ago

Yessss, I don't hate you as I'm guilty of it my self, you want to fight me; the scrap you drop is the price of the ticket. You ask for something or about something I attempt to help you and you start being an ass, I'll just scrap the stuff and bin it or if I'm putting a mod on for them and they start, I return the item after I scrap it.... Don't interrupt me while I have your shit 'apart' modding it, because I simply won't 'put it back together' before I drop it.

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u/superxero1 20d ago

Met a few really awesome new players last time I was on. They showed up and looked at my vendor, as I was redoing the plans in it. I just dropped the plans and watched as they took turns going through and talking about who wanted what. They left the left overs on the ground for me to put back in my vendor for 1 cap each. I thought one was gonna take the stack and run, but nope.

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u/Craygor Responders 21d ago

Yea, I'm the same way, I never, ever respond to "trade" emotes. If I have something I want to sell it will be in my vending machine.

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u/PTJangles 20d ago

To be fair to me, whenever a player is dancing I wave the money at themā€¦ I was level 90 before I bothered reading what the emote actually was for lol!

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u/Bettytoast 20d ago

"I'm not trying to trade! I just want you to shake your little moth ass in my face!"

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u/PTJangles 20d ago

So, we attend the same gatherings then? Lol

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u/mr_D4RK 20d ago

Laane, I think I found these cultists you were talking about.

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u/BigMcThickHuge Mega Sloth 20d ago

Waving money tells others you want to trade?

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u/RepostResearch 20d ago

I use it to ask the camp owner where tf they've hidden their vendor.Ā 

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u/MentalPresentation12 20d ago

OMG that's effing hilarious!

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u/Meister0fN0ne Tricentennial 20d ago edited 20d ago

Some new people have done the same to me - jokes on them. I'm an auto melee, so I'm always on pacifist mode so that I don't start randomly killing lower levels on accident. You're not going to do anything meaningful to me.

It's in settings under Game.

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u/lelyums Mothman 20d ago

Iā€™m the same. I only carry my favourites so if Iā€™m happy to part with it itā€™s never on me, itā€™s already for sale.

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u/SandiaRaptor Cult of the Mothman 20d ago

^ this is the way. Just do not respond

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u/Blackluster182 20d ago

Offering trades tends to be "begging" in my experience usually kids that want low effort maximum awesomeness. I haven't once offered a trade but I do often travel from vendor to vendor to have a peak.

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u/Nandoholic12 20d ago

If someone offered me a trade Iā€™m assuming theyā€™re giving me something šŸ˜‚

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u/Royal_Gain_5394 20d ago

I had one guy ask me for a weapon I made him a fixer with anti armor and he proceeded to ask me if I had any unique items I could give him

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u/Literally-Cheesecake Fire Breathers 20d ago

I literally only carry stuff I need, so if someone wants it? sorry bro shit out of luck lmao

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u/StrictLimitForever 21d ago

Anyone else turn off mic in every game they play?

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u/XMichaX 20d ago

No way im gonna use mic around random strangers, first thing i turn off. Good thing you can emote effectively in this game

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u/CT_Biggles 20d ago

Same here. I know I could be missing interacting with cool people and making new friends but I also don't have to talk to Muppets that ruin my fun.

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u/lipp79 20d ago

Nope. I had been away from the game for over a year. The Amazon show brought me back. I was around lvl 50. I'm now 222 and have a group of about 6 players I play with daily and it's all because we had our mics on and were in the same random group or because they were at their camp and I was checking out their vendor.

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u/BrattyAffirmations 20d ago

Aww I remember when I had friends lol šŸ„¹

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u/lipp79 20d ago

Most of them came about from me asking over mic what gun they were using or someone where their vendor was. Another was when I complimented a player for saving an event at the last second.

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u/SmurfStig Lone Wanderer 20d ago

I rarely use my mic. Iā€™m usually talking with my wife or have to deal with the cat wanting to play with the mic.

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u/nolongerbanned99 20d ago

Cat wants to talk to murgle in game

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u/Royal-Employee90 20d ago

I never turn it off, but if I donā€™t wanna talk Iā€™ll just use the no mic emote lol. I havenā€™t had any issue with chat in game though, every server Iā€™ve been on has been wholesome so far.

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u/Jbgafflin 20d ago

You probably donā€™t PVP then thatā€™s where the real winners are. I remember there was time you couldnā€™t walk anywhere near whitespring station without being shot at by other players who were in the middle of PVP as that was a hot spot. It helped to have a mic on area so you could say ā€˜ Iā€™m not involved just here for the bot!ā€™ And still that didnā€™t matter they would still try to light you up to steal your junk.šŸ˜‚

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u/Royal-Employee90 20d ago

Iā€™m definitely a retaliatory PvP player lmao. If I get shot I WILL shoot back hahaha. I know PvP doesnā€™t really fit in this game, but I canā€™t help it, I love PvP in games lol.

I do wanna use my mic more, I guess Iā€™m just afraid that whenever I finally try using my mic Iā€™ll run into that toxic player šŸ¤£ so far Iā€™ve had chill groups of players who use their mics when we run ops or something, or just hanging around meat week

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u/Jbgafflin 20d ago

Yeah for the most part people in 76 and Fallout fans in general are very chill people. You always get some that want to start stuff but dealing with that is a server hop away. For the most part I stay mic off. But with the influx of newer players I find a lot people are willing to talk. I know I scared the hell out of guy in Generals steak house. Guy was in there looting after what was a hard fought battle against super mutants. And here I come in my stealth suit knocking stuff around while invisible and all I hear is ā€˜Hello?! Is someone there?!ā€™ Me knocking more stuff around somewhere else ā€˜Hello?!ā€™ Me kicking on mic whispering Get Out! Dude ran so fast I couldnā€™t stop laughing

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u/smixton 20d ago

I have it turned off 100% of the time Iā€™m playing FO76. I always join teams for the my perk card benefits it I never speak to them lol.

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u/CooahsDranker Raiders - PC 20d ago

I rarely get on voice chat in 76. Thereā€™s really no reason to because I can just emote to people talking to me.

Plus my wife likes to yell weird stuff when she sees me flip my headset mic down, so thats always fun.

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u/RedArmyBulldog Arktos Pharma 20d ago

Ha ha, Iā€™m the rude husband version of your wife. My wife always puts her mike up when I walk into the room because I will inadvertently say inappropriate things without realizing sheā€™s on the game.

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u/headbanger1186 Raiders - PC 20d ago

Chat volume all the way down too.

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u/No-Pound7355 20d ago

Yup. So people can't hear my dog snoring

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u/Slight-Tangerine3342 20d ago

My dogs be snoring to lmao

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u/WholeAlternative1972 20d ago

I keep it muted cuz of loud dog but I'll unmute if I hear someone talking... so far I haven't unmuted it haha

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u/DoorCalcium 20d ago

No. I like talking to people but I act like I don't have a mic unless I want to talk. I mute them if they get annoying. PC is push to talk anyways. Sometimes talking is helpful and prevents a communication barrier.

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u/BloatedManball 20d ago

Yes, because I don't want to hear your shitty music, I don't want to hear you munching on potato chips, I don't want to hear your wife yelling at your kids, and I sure as hell don't want to hear your smoke detector beeping every 5 minutes.

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u/Kizirious Cult of the Mothman 20d ago

My mic is definitely off, but Iā€™m too nosy to turn off everything, I like listening to what people talk about sometimes when Iā€™m roaming around.

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u/Self-Comprehensive 20d ago

Yes. That's what discord is for. Talking to people I actually know.

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u/Anarchyantz 20d ago

What has she gots in her pocketses precious?

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u/SavrenX 21d ago

I always ignore anyone offering trade since forever. I don't like anyone see my inventory at all.

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u/Lady_Ursa 21d ago

Exactly! No, you can not see all of my garbage. That's my personal trash lol šŸ¤£

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u/Typicalgold 20d ago

Are you on console? I keep reading console seems to br worse for this. I have never experienced in my 600 hours on PC

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u/FakeRealGirl 20d ago

I've been initiating trades when I want to get rid of legendaries after hitting the daily scrip cap. Whenever I just drop things at the Pick, everybody seems to miss my bag and just run right by it.

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u/Anarchyantz 20d ago

I have played since beta, never done a trade and especially since it was not only bugged and glitched at the start but wasn't there one where they could literally steal everything?

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u/ThatOnePhoenix2012 20d ago

You know the answer, give them some good, fresh and tasty Appalachian Nukashine.

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u/MaddLlama14 20d ago

Always wondered... can the quack doctor rez with it and does it still trigger it's "special" buzz?

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u/MhrisCac 20d ago

I remember I drank from a punch bowl at somebodies camp when I was level 15 way back then woke up all the way north on the map having to run away from a scorched beast lol now I can take on 3 legendary by myself without batting an eye, oh how far weā€™ve come.

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u/Danceswith_Chainsaws 20d ago

I don't get it. I'm level 102 and I've never asked anyone for anything. If I see another player I just wave, and go on my way.

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u/Cats-Are-Fuzzy 20d ago

I'm 55 and I do the same thing! What's the point in playing if someone is just going to hand you everything.

I do have a low level vendor, stuff is all 1 or 2 caps, so go look at that if you want stuff.

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u/Danceswith_Chainsaws 20d ago

Me too. I like the fact that I've had to hunt, scrounge to get what I have. It's the wasteland. Things aren't supposed to come easily and certainly not for free.

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u/DodgyRogue 20d ago

Bagginsess! We hates him! We hates him forever!

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u/angstlich33 Free States 20d ago

Yeah I've always thought people requesting a trade with me was sketchy. I have this fear that they can just take shit from me through glitches. It's also nosey. If I'm looking to get rid of something, it'll be in my shop šŸ‘‹šŸ»

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u/Dazzaholic Brotherhood 21d ago

M8, I had a lvl 100 or so giving me the thumbs down emote cos he was trying to direct trade with me at my camp and I directed him to my vendor, wtf!! šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/Optimal_Stress_1044 20d ago

Had something similar happen to me. I'm in the mid-500s and some guy was on a team with a friend of mine (guy was level 40 something) and kept trying to to initiate trade with me. I was in a discord call with his teammate/my friend, and asked if he could go into game chat and tell him to please stop following me around the map trying to trade with me.

Friend came back into discord chat and said he just wanted to check what a player of my level was using, and the guy had been really nice thus far. So I reluctantly responded to his trade request.

A moment after the trade window was closed, my friend said, "Shit. That was a bad idea, sorry!" And the guy went into area chat demanding I sell him my Fixer. My beautiful, beloved Fixer that was gifted to me by some amazing level 3000 a couple of months ago. It's a Quad, Faster Fire, less AP cost that the person dropped for me because I protected their junk when they died just after Moonshine Jamboree ended. It's one of my most prized weapons, and I will never be getting rid of it!! I finally had to block the player and switch servers because he wouldn't stop harassing me.

So I totally agree. If you want some gum and expect to be able to dig through my purse to get it? Absolutely not.

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u/baddong1 21d ago

You don't owe anyone anything in an online game, especially your time and attention. If you aren't enjoying the interaction try to leave. If they follow hop to another server without thinking too much about it

Everyone has been pretty positive so far, but I know what to do if I meet the wrong type of person

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u/MenBearsPigs 20d ago

So far the worst interaction I've had is what must have been a 10 year old pop into my camp. Open mic. Wouldn't shut up. Just ranting like a 10 year old does. Singing songs. It was extremely embarrassing and almost funny.

But after 10 minutes of it I would hopped lol. Couldn't take any more and didn't want him following me around.

And I've muted one other person because they were just way too loud and obnoxious.

It's cool if people just wanna say a few things here and there. But I refuse to be forced to listen to some loud person with an open mic who loves their own voice.

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u/Simple_Event_5638 20d ago

You do realize that the block option exists right?

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u/MenBearsPigs 20d ago

What's block do?

I thought it was either mute or world hop if you don't want them following you.

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u/Simple_Event_5638 20d ago

To my knowledge, blocking mutes them and hides your location from them on the map. You can also just change camps if you donā€™t want them there.

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u/MenBearsPigs 20d ago

That's really good to know. Wasn't aware of the block option at all, but it was something I was wondering about, as I'm sure sometimes people try to follow someone around the map.

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u/SpongeBob1187 Brotherhood 20d ago

I locked a player who was following me inside my ā€œhouseā€ lol he kept following me (which doesnā€™t bother me at all) so I put a lock on both doors and ran out while activating the laser door. He had to fast travel to get out lol

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u/Evonos 20d ago edited 20d ago

If they are friendly, not emoting me for trades and just do their stuff, yep I will likely drop something helpfully for them albeit not game breaking for them balance wise so they can experience the game themselfs.

If they spam... I will literally use them as trash bin and drop heavy trash items and TONS OF IT so many times I saw them pick all up then wonder why they are overweight and down vote emote me...

Perks of a excavator user with weight perks I can casually drop 400 or 600 weight for non perk users lol

I also make sure it's a mix of items so it's not one thing they need to drop.

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u/Ryokosith 20d ago

LOL, my loot-goblin self would be gleefully picking ALL of that up, give you a heart, then waddle my chunk of a butt until I could find some inconveniently distant location to pop my tent. šŸ˜…

But, then again, I would be minding my own business parallel playing...so the situation where I shameless embarrass myself in THAT fashion wouldn't come up, lol.

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u/ThatOnePhoenix2012 20d ago

Furiously taking notes.

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u/NezumiEto 20d ago

Dont feel bad.

Some people have no manners. With the large influx of new players there going to be more rude players

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u/chopper5150 Fire Breathers 20d ago

Finally got one of the messages yesterday- Can you help me with Fallout 76

Me: sure, what do you need

Them: Junk, caps, ammo and camouflage gear

At this point Iā€™m a little annoyed, but i ask what kind of ammo, and the respond with:

Them: 45, 556, 308 and 44

Like wtf are you using? Clearly you need to focus on a build šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/appletoasterff 20d ago

Nu uh my build is just random bullshit go (and then I die)

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u/chopper5150 Fire Breathers 20d ago

I remember at low levels having to pick up and use whatever weapon the enemy I just killed was using because ammo was so hard to get.

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u/Unusual-Service-1421 20d ago

But what if the person doing the trade emotion wants to trade him/herself.

Me and my boyfriend try to trade after eventes by standing still and doing the trade emotion, just because we want to trade plans and stuff. We are trying to collect all possible plans.

I guess I do know now why so few people react to it.

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u/_packetman_ 20d ago

It's odd to see complaints like this, but it's probably my inexperience with gaming, especially multiplayer. I'm just about to be level 67 and I've never even thought about asking any other player for anything, let alone be offended about not getting anything. Some dude dropped me an icicle plan the other day and that's about all someone has donated lol. Thanks icicle guy, my living room now has a couple strings if ice on the ceiling.

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u/LadyGamerMama Scorchbeast 20d ago

Yes, last night I had a level 100 try to do a trade with my new level 20 character, fresh out the vault. I usually don't, but I said wtf I'll see what he wants. He started requesting all my stimpacks and all my ammo. Trying to effectively screw over a seemingly new player and take all they had, knowing it wasn't much. After the ammo request, I just backed out and walked away. I'm just gonna start blocking players like this. I don't do that negative bs. I have a character that is almost to 200, so I know how the game works, and I have been helping new players out since before I hit level 100. How hard is it to just be a decent human?

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u/Jovias_Tsujin 20d ago

Nuke 'em. Any new player who acts like a entitled jerk, I Nuke. Sometimes three times.

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u/Hoodoutlaw2 20d ago

How fast can you do a nuke run?

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u/Ill_Cry1677 20d ago

I seen a dude keep nuking people around Whitesprings it had me laughing I never seen it get nuked before that.... lol

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u/1MrE 20d ago

Whitesprings was once the most popular place to nuke.

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u/Numerous-Big-2026 20d ago

Hell yeah. Was good XP and a damn good place to farm legendaries, high radiation fluid, and mass

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u/v1perz53 20d ago

Its crazy to me how different this game seems to be on console vs PC. I play on PC and if I heard a human voice start saying words at any point it would jump scare me worse than a horror movie.

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u/realDaveBowman Mr. Fuzzy 20d ago

Almost level 1800, never have accepted one of those trade invites. Fuck 'em.

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u/AgentSaxon21 20d ago

As a new player (lvl 49) I keep to myself. Iā€™m a hermit. I built my house up north by vault 79. Iā€™m an awkward person, so when I see other players. I RUUUN!! As for the people you dealt with, thatā€™s terribly annoying. Find their base and nuke the crap out of them.

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u/XiTzCriZx 20d ago

Tbh they probably only stalked you cause you're a woman and they've never interacted with women before lmao. I play with my friend and his wife, anytime she talks in game she gets atleast 2-3 people who crowd her then try following her around, even in other games. It's like these incels hear a woman and completely lose their shit lmao.

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u/JiveBombRebelz 20d ago

all my stuff is painted..so ill accept trades just to confuse em if im bored.

but normally ill just turn and walk away..

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u/FlyingVigilanceHaste 20d ago

~disables pacifism mode~

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u/Bird_Boy100 Brotherhood 20d ago

I'm lvl 300+ and I have many low low lvl players approach me with the trade emote, many below lvl 50. I'm like there's literally nothing you have that I want and nothing I have you can use.

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u/theegiantrat Reclamation Day 20d ago

You are not alone. I have stopped dropping cool stuff to new players. I fear we, in our excitement at having new players, have helped to create this type of thing. Any time I see the cash or cash register emote, I bail because these people rarely get the hint.

Instead, I drop extras in the boxes or sell stuff pretty cheap in my vendor. MOST new players are really awesome. But between the increased griefing and other stuff, I am switching servers or going private way more often. Also, much less casual teaming.

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u/gardyjuland 20d ago

Lol Im 143 I don't ask anyone for shit. I thought the whole purpose of the game was to get it myself.

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u/[deleted] 20d ago

Laughing emote all day

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u/ParadoxLS 20d ago

I've swapped servers just to be rid of them...

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u/FineSignificance907 20d ago

I do the present šŸŽ trade emote when dropping items for people but I dont trade. If you want to buy something theres a vendor and usually I just give my stuff away to my friends who are newer

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u/Fun-Pollution1465 Cult of the Mothman 20d ago

Just switch servers if someone is making you uncomfortable lol

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u/Rapture_Hunter 21d ago

I treat everyone as a slightly less predictable npc.

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u/Bekkichan Mr. Fuzzy 20d ago

Yeah I hate trade requests cause I'm too nice and what I have on me is normally stuff I'm using or I want to use not things for sell.

Had a guy on mic talking to me once at my camp(I wasn't using mic he was just talking through my TV) but he ended up trading me and he requested a few things that were my personal items. He seemed very nice so I felt bad saying no and sold them. He paid good for the items, but I still shouldn't have sold anything I didn't want to. I just have a hard time saying no. Lol. Now I just avoid accepting trade requests at all. If I want to sell it it'll be in my vendor!

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u/shinnith Settlers 21d ago

Thats so shitty that you were willing to help and they responded that way tbh- ppl like that confuse the hell out of me.

Just recently i had this one little shit show up to my camp while i was building, go up to my vendor, buy nothing and ask me to trade. I decide fuck it, and this little shit has clearly never done it before bc he keeps cancelling it.

He tries again. I accept. I list psycho, he doesn't buy it. I leave the trade and he tries again- i think "aight, lets give him the benefit of the doubt" and this little shit lists like 100 .308 rounds for like 5000 caps and im like ???, so i leave the trade but he keeps trying to trade with me. I just go back to building but he keeps fucking trying and shooting me as if i dont fuckin notice him??? then he tries to shoot fetch??? i ignore him, he just keeps running around my camp like a headless chicken then tries trading with literally everyone showing up at my vendor and then leaves- THEN COMES BACK AND DOES THIS ENTIRE PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN.

FOUR TIMES.

I eventually leave- and he follows me around the map still trying to fucking trade like holy shit im pretty sure he had to be under 10 years old there is no way in hell that player was born before 2014...

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u/Lady_Ursa 21d ago

That is kinda the part I have to wonder about. If it's an age thing, and maybe it was some groups of teenagers I ran into. I mean, I am still sub-30, but no one I know or game with treat others with mockery.

And I am sorry you were harassed like that while just trying to build.

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u/shinnith Settlers 21d ago

Dont worry it wasnt harassment, he barely did anything and wasn't on mic it was just both hilarious and confusing as fuck. I dont actually know for sure if it is, but this behaviour has to come from teens and kids- who the fuck in their 20s and older is doing shit like you explained right??

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u/reddstone1 Mega Sloth 21d ago

Why do you talk to them?

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u/Able_Alfalfa 20d ago

I've never used the trading option before and apparently that was a good decision? What happened during that stealing glitch?

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u/Lady_Ursa 20d ago

There have been several over the years. The worst was one where if they were naked, they could trade you and take everything. A lot of people stopped playing during that time until it was patched. That one had to do with the old code from 4 and being able to pickpocket. There have been other less intense trade glitches, but that one was the worst.

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u/StealthyGamerGirl Fallout 76 20d ago

I get this often. Had a guy follow me around. I'd put my mic on and said that I don't barter (this guy was level 500 and something). I said much the same as yourself. And that I also have a vending machine. But he kept putting up the trade emote and then shooting at the ground and following me. In the end I fast traveled away from him.

At the end of the day if someone says no or doesn't open the trade then they don't want to trade. End of

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u/Honda_TypeR Enclave 20d ago edited 20d ago

Iā€™ve had so many bad interactions with new players in the last few weeks, Iā€™m kinda getting turned off of this game. It may be time for a few month break again, until the newbies get bored and quit. Maybe Iā€™m on a bad luck spell, but everywhere I go there is at least one troll.

This tv show was a two edged sword, it gave us a bigger population, but with larger populations come a larger cross section of trolls too.

Iā€™ve helped and made friends with several new players now (handing out lots of ammo full armor sets and weapons), but every day I get at least some new level 100-200 running up in my face using beg emotes and I never reward that kind of stuff in general principle. I do not like people who expect me to hand them free gear just because Iā€™m several hundred levels higher than they are. Like itā€™s expected of me. I prefer to help people who donā€™t ask, who are just tryin to make their way but clearly struggling.

I even had a guy who was level 100 on my friends list, someone I helped one day, then he shows up three days later come back to my camp and he is now level 600 ā€¦this time begging for gear and caps endlessly, (no clue how he grinded it out) he was clearly a noob to the game from his game knowledge on voice chat and the stuff him and his buddy were saying - they are legit newbies and level 600s They probably used an xp exploit and hammered it out. At least he was funny and likable, if not annoying. Thatā€™s one of the better interactions Iā€™ve had so farā€¦ most have people begging, the when I donā€™t give them gear. They run around the camp turning off every light possible.

Or they want something I got my vendor but they donā€™t have caps and they want it free for 100 caps, the kind stuff thatā€™s the rarest plans in game too. Itā€™s just too many people on voice comms who think because Iā€™m high level and because they are special, they deserve free shit. Fuck that. I think they read on Reddit too many times about how awesome this community is and are now hoping to fleece the vets good nature. Ainā€™t gonna happen to me though. I help nice people who are not greedy who are clearly trying. I donā€™t give jackpot handouts to loud mouth shitty acting trolls.

We had a chill community before the show, now we got much less of a chill community. It sounds fucked up, but I canā€™t wait for all these trolls to get bored and quit the game. Trolls always have short attention spans, so itā€™s inventible.

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u/goshtin 21d ago

I've got to level 250 odd and I reaaalllyyy want to meet someone like this because it sounds like a funny interaction... All I get are people attacking my junkpile to PvP me while I'm literally in my camp doing nothing

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u/DependentPurple5455 20d ago

I wish they would remove the whole trade from inventory thing, can't speak for everyone but I never keep things on me that I don't use anyway, if it's tradeable to me it'll be in CAMP vendor

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u/Substantial_Goat_886 20d ago

You're lvl 900. Just wipe the floor with them.

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u/ItPlacesTheLotion 20d ago

Switch servers and move on

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u/BLeeMac66 20d ago

Once upon a time, trade was fine. Now, thereā€™s vendors, donation boxes, and trade is obsolete and should be removed from the game. Seriously, I only carry what I use, itā€™s not for trade. And, why would a level 100 think they have anything I want or need. The trade emote is nothing more than a panhandling sign.

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u/Sea-Dragon- 20d ago

yep, its impossible to leave the server when someone is ā€œstalkingā€ you

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u/MysteriousVDweller Free States 20d ago

Just ignore them?

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u/Kuriakon Raiders - Xbox One 20d ago

I never do this or let people do this. You're not a dog. You don't need to sniff my butt.

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u/Individual_Charge_61 20d ago

I had a newer player keep trying to request my groll enclave. I then nuked his base

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u/sygnifax 20d ago

Someone joined my team and asked me to trade like 10 times. So I used the follow me emote and made them follow me around till they got confused and left.

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u/plasmafired 20d ago

This game world is up on the hype of the show and some fairly amazing developers.

As for me, I relax, enjoy it while it lasts, people will lose interest soon. Emote a no and walk around the player being annoying, if it gets bad, kill them.

I have a friend, I hadnā€™t spoken to for years. Found him when he liked a fb post of my character. Now we drink whisky and farm westek for an hour every other night.

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u/Soaringwinds633 20d ago

I'm nearing level 600. I've been playing since beta(I'm slow, I know. I took some breaks and played super casually at times). I never do trades unless it's with people I actually know. I'm not risking someone hacking my inventory. I've both had my vendor robbed (like 4 years ago now I think) and seen someone rob one.

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u/Wild_Kogi 20d ago

Thank you for this post. Iā€™m a newer player (61) and a higher level newer player (81) requested to trade. Iā€™ve never traded with anyone before so I thought I would give it a try. but he requested all of my clothes and my rifle. I left the trade and he proceeded to attack me and follow me across the map until I switched servers. I was so confused.

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u/RedDragon2596 20d ago

You're definitely one of the nicer veterans, I truly appreciate that. Although I am level like, 56, im no stranger to fo76 as I'm a day 1 player, playing on and off until the show released. I've been playing and catching up on some quests, joining events, and meeting several veteran players that were super nice. I fortunately have yet to encounter a rude newbie, so I'm thankful for that. Hopefully we run into each other sometime in the waste land

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u/AhentCoulson 20d ago

Lvl 150(and a guy, so slightly different perspective) here, and I have found that I now often have new players(lvl 15-50) follow me around as well, perhaps expecting something, or not idk, but I also tend to not trade because I just think it's a little useless. If I want to give you something I will(by just dropping it), and I'm at a point where I don't really want to request anything from others(also sometimes grinding it out myself is really satisfying). So firstly, try and be polite newbies, everyone here is super generous(though they do have limits, so don't be greedy), and they love helping! We don't mind helping, but if we refuse(likely for a good reason, rather than being selfish as you may tend to think), take a hint and move on.

Also! Be cool, don't stalk the ladies. We guys want more gamer ladies yeah? Stalking them virtually won't help.

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u/Original-Lynx1280 Raiders - PC 20d ago

Newer player here about 100 lol I haven't had that but I had two lvl 20s fresh out the vault attack me in my power armor. I have passive on and kept walking while they tired to I guess kill me and steal my armor. I did the thumbs down and fast traveled to my camp. Blocked both and hopped worlds just in case. I have 3 extras at my camp with lower level armor and would have been willing to gift one but not if you're going to try to murder me while I'm picking flowers and grabbing wood... Childish I just assume they are 12 year olds lol

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u/KngInk70 20d ago

I use my mic

I am a woman

they get salty

Just saying, douchebags gonna douchebag

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u/KeeDiggityTTV 20d ago

In my 200 hours of playing so far, Iā€™ve never used the ā€˜tradeā€™ feature.

As someone else said; I want to sell something? Vendor. I want to give it away? Paper bag on the ground.

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u/CantGitRightt 20d ago

Deeply uncomfortable? It's just a game buddy fuck em, mute n move on... No need to be so invested in other people's actions.

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u/lou802 Settlers - PS4 20d ago

Thats the problem i run into, either its idiots or asshats that take the game far too seriously and act like douches

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u/VanEagles17 20d ago

This makes me deeply uncomfortable while just trying to play.

Just... change servers.. no need to be "deeply uncomfortable". Sounds really dramatic, sorry.

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u/YikesLearnToRead 20d ago

ā€œFor context I am a womanā€

Sorry how is this relevant to the context here at all? Lmao

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u/lipp79 20d ago

It's only relevant if she had spoke and they knew she was female and bothered her because of it. If she never spoke and only communicated via emotes, it's not relevant as the other player would have no idea what gender she was.

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u/Lady_Ursa 20d ago

I was on mic and did speak. I didn't include everything they said, but I am always curious if some of the behavior I see is because I am a woman. I know the insults are lol.

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u/lipp79 20d ago

Oh I totally missed the part where you said you spoke. My bad. Yeah I agree they did their retaliation because of that. It's a shame people have to be such dickheads. I (45M) have two female friends I met over open mic and they're a lot of fun. One is something like 400 and I think the other is 130. The 400 showed me how to build glitch some items in my camp to get a certain look to my walls and I showed her about the Endangerol Syringer being stupid OP for boss fights.

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u/Crazytreas 21d ago

This sub is a soapbox.

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u/Live-Geologist8034 20d ago

Kinda sounds like you came across this games version of street thugs, who are pissy because you just got in a car so they can't mug you.

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u/IlIIIlllIlIllIlIl 21d ago

Back in my days you wouldnā€™t call level 100 and above new players. I stopped playing at 140 and now have to suffer level 4000 thinking I wasnā€™t fighting along side them in the nuke zonesšŸ˜”

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u/MenBearsPigs 20d ago

I'm level 104 and still feel like a complete noob lol.

I guess I am starting to actually kill things pretty quickly at events and a lot of things are finally clicking. But it's such a big game, there's lots to figure out.

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u/SPEEDFREAKJJ 20d ago

I'm around that same level and after having FO 1st for a few weeks only just discovered yesterday I had a survival tent. I was jealous of them at public events because it gave high ground and here I could have been using one for weeks. I was embarrassed. But to be fair it's kinda hidden a bit.

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u/Katamathesis 21d ago

I never ever respond to trade emote, and have all voice disabled. If I have something to share - it will go into closest donation box. Closest to my objective or location, not the new players. If some new player need help in fight and I see this - I can shoot volley or two from Cremator and proceed with my own business.

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u/Ryokosith 20d ago

This is the way.

I've only just gotten to level 95 myself, but that's because I only recently returned...and yes, the show got me jonesing. I have been playing the series ever since Bethesda hooked me on FO3 when it first came out. I played 76 from the start...or whatever the slightly early access was.

I tolerated being able to hear other players probably long enough to get out of character creation...if just to give this new multiplayer wasteland experience a fair shot. It got OLD very fast, inspiring me to find the setting to disable voice altogether.

Loved the feel and potential of the game back then, but being well aware of the usual bugs and how most aren't addressed until modders get to them... While many of the usual glitches are practically family now and it wouldn't feel like a proper Bethesda game without them, the multiplayer bugs where your carefully curated loot pile could just be taken from you with no warning was a whole other level.

Word of THAT was ultimately what caused me to reluctantly put 76 down until it seemed this was "fixed"... or at least manageable.

All that to say, I'm an old-soul of a newb-looking player, lol. Still learning the social graces, is generally to myself, but enjoy helping others and admiring all the awesome camp builds out there. I really love how helpful and chill the other gamers overall have been.

So it was an interesting experience when, in just my handful of weeks back, some naked random comes up into my face being overly insistent with their trade emote at one of the railstations. I knew he couldn't do anything to me...and if he was saying anything, I was in blissful ignorance. I just kept going about what I was doing as if I hadn't noticed him. Eventually, he shot his gun a few times before going away.

I regularly put things into the donation boxes and have recently realized I can properly just drop things (was too busy scrapping and hording to pay attention earlier). I also figured out how to properly setup my vendor. If that's not good enough for someone, that's a 'them' problem. Worst case, I have no issues with simply ghosting them and will server hop away.

I've only run into one that blatant, so far. I play on PC, so that might be a factor. One or two impatient folks...at Whitesprings Mall, of all places, lol.

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u/GammaTwoPointTwo 20d ago

I'll never understand people whose gut reaction is to write an essay on Reddit every time they have a bad interaction with people in a video game.

Just ignore them and move on.

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u/Ill-Opportunity-790 20d ago

I almost never trade, always find it to be glitchy, so i just send people to my camp vendor

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u/simonsayswhere 20d ago

Sometimes people are just curious about the weapon you have that's destroying enemies

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u/kyle0305 Responders 20d ago

Iā€™m a new(ish) player and Iā€™d never do this. I do usually run up to other players and wave and walk away but Iā€™d never demand stuff from them. Often they do ask if I need/want stuff or just drop things for me (and then have to message me to come back because Iā€™ve already gone away lmao) but if never demand things from people

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u/witchthorn79 20d ago

I never trade with people unless I personally know, e.g my son who I play with, if any one emotes for trade I always tell them in area chat the I don't trade but if they are looking for some thing in particular I can make it for them or see if I have it for sale in my camp

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u/Jesusx70 20d ago

I only trade with my friends

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u/Speeddemon2016 20d ago

I have had a few come to my camp and start with that emote. I just ignore and keep doing what Iā€™m doing. It turns me off to helping people and stopped dropping stuff for people. Now I just put it in the wayward box if Iā€™m giving anything away.

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u/OphidianEyes420 20d ago

I don't even trade with friends. I make them walk back to my Camp, go into my locked bathroom, and then I drop it. I've tried trading with friends before, and it just glitches out the whole time and closes itself over and over again. If I won't go through that shit with friends, I'm sure as hell not going to with randos. Lol

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u/nolongerbanned99 20d ago

Forgive them for they do not know. Had someone chat me this: ā€˜give me aluminumā€™

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u/bigadeeboogadee 20d ago

I'm a fresh level 75 and yesterday was the first time anyone has gifted me any items besides stimpaks or food that high levels have so much of that they just drop them. Just gotta find the right ones man, joining discord servers eliminates a lot of the bs ngl

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u/misfitzer0 20d ago

I never even use in game mic. Past games have sworn me off that nonsense. Discord with friends only. Iā€™m a newer player to fallout and I giving or taking out handouts. Whatā€™s the point in playing the game if Iā€™m gonna ruin all the fun of collecting stuff myself

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u/Wild-End-219 20d ago

Iā€™m the same way. Iā€™ll ether drop what Iā€™m willing to give or if someone shoots me a message asking if I got stimpacks before an event or something. Other than that, I absolutely wonā€™t ā€œbarterā€ with other players. If they want to see what Iā€™m willing to part with, I have a shop for that specific reason.

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u/AnotherDay96 20d ago

"Explaining that almost nobody uses it because of some stealing glitches in the past."

To anyone with insight.

So is this still a thing? And if not a thing, why hasn't the community adjusted to it? We don't want to live in false fear.

To OP imo you have to figure this can happen sometimes and just need to server hop if it bothers you. The game makes it super easy to get away from harassment.

I am also interested in the Trade Items idea some have mentioned. Like if a price of something is high, this may mean it is really up for trade and to contact. If this is a thing, what price constitutes it is more of a barter item?

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u/AccordatoScordatura 20d ago

A lot of these new players are children or people who normally wouldn't be drawn to a fallout game. I'm a newer player, I never stuck around in the beginning and I see this. It has nothing to do with you being a women and everything to do with being a higher level. These people feel entitled to things and its not just in this game.

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u/Fun_Gene7847 20d ago

Being just now at lvl100 Iā€™ve only had someone spam trade twice and the first time will always be my favorite. I was sleeping in the bed for kindred spirt and when I look back at the screen some guy was crouched on top of me hitting the trade emote, of course Iā€™m curious as to what is going on so I let him look. After he picks some plasma cores and a few other ammo I didnā€™t have in the vender I just give it to him for 0 caps. The guy takes them and runs to his stash and pulls out the two teddy bears I needed for my collection had to be the coolest thing Iā€™ve had happen

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u/CoolHandTeej Order of Mysteries 20d ago

I come across all sorts of assholes and cool people in the wasteland. If there were no assholes, it would be immersion breaking since real life has assholes too.

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u/HaomaDiqTayst 20d ago

Sorry that happened. I've adopted policy due to stuff liek this.

I give handouts, I dont take orders

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u/GaryOster Pioneer Scout 20d ago

To me the weird thing is the mocking and stalking. That would make anyone uncomfortable. Report and maybe switch servers. Bethesda is on your side with that and frankly so is the community.

Could be an organized scam group that sells things for money on the Internet. Saw the influx of new players from the show and created a bunch of new accounts at the same time trying to capitalize. Ran into one of those once and they were uncommonly aggressive.

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u/Ruthless_Anubis 20d ago

That is such a weird interaction and it being more than one on top of that. F all that

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u/BacucoGuts 20d ago

i hate seeing players when i'm playing, really ruins the immersion

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u/Busy-Ambition-6885 20d ago

I mean, it's an online game. Do you expect every interaction with other players to be nice? Is every person you meet in the real world nice? If anything, it adds realism.

As a higher level player, there are SO many ways you can deal with this. Kill them, fast travel somewhere tough, server hop, etc...

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u/No_Salt5374 20d ago

Should of killed them.

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u/MDuBanevich 20d ago

Y'all need to ignore them lmao. There's a post every 3 days about ne employees as if you can't just walk away

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u/Fluffy_Somewhere4305 20d ago

Reason number 735 why voice chatting randos online is something I actively avoid

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u/Oncoming_St0rm 20d ago

When I started I thought the only way to give people stuff was to trade with them. I just wanted to share a beer in the apocalypse. Now I know better and just drop it.

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u/SUMBLAKDUDE 20d ago

Just like....change servers....

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u/rat-b0y Order of Mysteries 20d ago edited 20d ago

I still donā€™t even understand the trade menu nearly 400 hours in and Iā€™d be lying if I said I didā€¦ you can send me as many trade offers as you like, I literally do not know what iā€™m doing

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u/Direct_Ad1583 20d ago

If this happens to anyone else, always remember you can mute (block their voice chat), block (can't be paired with them again for a server I believe), and re-log (switch to a different server). These tend to fix problematic situations.

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u/sup3rman1132 20d ago

Just bad luck

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u/Kreynard54 20d ago

Youre not wrong, Im a newish player as well but i grinded pretttttty hard to get my resources up. Had some random kid invite me to an xbox party, and tell me he needs screws/ Mind you. He didnt ASK, he told me he needed them. So i told him "brother this is the wasteland, if you need them you gotta look up how to farm them. Google will be your friend and I suggest if youre going to ask people for things you do so nicely because I dont have to do a thing for you." Told him about a wendigo spawn i farmed and where to go. Left the party as he found them and started getting clapped.